There was a topic like this a while back, I think it more practical to make a new one rather than revive the old one.
Any particular ideas on characters those animals could be?
Here's my list, I'll post characters later if this gets interest
Short-nosed echidnas
Platypuses
Water opposums (could be some new wave vermin)
Marsupial mice
Ningauis (Could be some helpful desert hermits)
Dibblers
Antechinuses
Quolls
Tasmanian devils
Koalas (Rare)
Wombats (Can't you just imagine one popping it's head out of the ground and saying to the startled passerby "G'day mate!"
possums
cuscuses
ringtails
pygmy gliders
rat-kangaroos
potoroos
bettongs
hare wallabys
swamp wallabys (very rare indeed)
Moonrats
Solenodons
Tenrecs
desmans
elephant-shrews
tree shrews
angwantibo
lorises
galagos (more commonly known as bush babies)
lemurs
one aye-aye (probably a very evil and deranged vermin king)
indris
tarsiers
tamarins
squirrel monkeys
sloths
anteaters and tamanduas
armadillos and pangolins (probably heavy duty fighters)
pichi
pikas
some rabbits who weren't cowards
woodchucks
other marmots
meesa a prairie doooooooog!
gophers
vesper rats
more hamsters
gerbils
lemmings
porcupines
agoutis
hutias
coypu
swift foxes (probably spies)
fennec foxes
arctic foxes
grey foxes
raccoon dogs
maned wolves
jackals
coyotes
ethiopian wolves
red wolves
dingos (main bad guys in desertish areas maybe?)
Dholes
red pandas
raccons
olingos and kinkajous (probably good creatures)
other types of marten (beech, yellow-throat etc.)
grisons
zorillas (yes I did say zorillas, look them up and any others in the list that you've never heard of)
honey badgers
ferret-badgers
skunks
civets, genets, linsangs, binturongs, mongeese meerkats and fossa
aardwolves
some small species of hyenas
jungle cats
sand cats
lynxes
bobcats
caracals
flat-headed cats
andean cats
margays
jaguarundis
tapirs
pig type things (like boars and warthogs and red river hogs)
And now for some mounts (there are none in redwall apart from cluny's horse)
onagers
chevrotains
musk deer
muntjac
chitals
pudus
bongos
anoas
duikers
lechwe
kob
pukus
oribi
steenbok
dik-dik
saigas
tahrs
ibexes (Could be used as battering rams)
Reptiles and amphibians
some turtles and tortoises (could be like wise old sages)
sunbeam snakes
carpet pythons
asps (snake assassins ftw!)
boomslangs
racers (they're a type of snake)
mambas (more snake assassins)
kraits
cobras
rainbow lizards
flying lizards
thorny devils
water dragons
chameleons (expert spies)
anolis
basilisks (they're lizards that can walk on water)
day geckos
armadillo lizards
flat lizards
wall lizards
skinks
gila monsters
monitor lizards
caimans
a gharial
salamanders
fire-bellied toads
clawed toads
burrowing frogs
horned frogs
paradoxical frogs
treefrogs
glass frogs (expert spies)
poison dart frogs (expert assassins, if you touch them you die)
leopard frogs
mantellas
flying frogs
rain frogs
rubber frogs
birds
penguins (ftw!)
albatrosses (can't you imagine an albatross as an awesome pirate captain? I can)
gannets
darters
hamerkops
shoebills
ibises
spoonbills
mandarins (the bird)
goosanders
lammergeiers
egyptian vultures
bald eagles
buzzards
golden eagles
secretary birds
falcons
turkeys
capercaillies
trapogans
peafowl
cranes
swamphens
kagus
sunbitterns
curlews
skuas
terns
puffins
fruit pigeons
victoria pigeons
parrots
cockatoos
conures
macaws
turacos
hoatzin
roadrunnershummingbirds
hillstars
quetzals and trogons
kingfishers
motmots
bee-eaters
todys
rollers
hoopoes
jacamars
barbets
toucans and toucanets
cotingas
cocks-of-the-rock (real birds, check them out)
pihas
manakins
flycatchers
bulbuls
waxwings
sunbirds
spiderhunters
honeyeaters and friarbirds
cardinals
buntings
dickcissels
tanagers
honeycreepers
orioles
whydahs
drongos
birds of paradise
fish
more sharks
makos
smooth-hounds
rays
sawfish
coelacanth
sturgeon
paddlefish
gars
knifefish
moray eels
halosaurs
hatchet herring
piranhas
spookfish
dragonfish
slackjaws
lancetfish
ventfish
black devils
anglers
needlefish
flyingfish
pupfish
opahs
oarfish
fangtooth
trumpetfish
poachers
black swallowers
jawfish
men-of-war
dolphinfish
parrotfish
swordfish and marlins
and finally sunfish
Hyenas could make for an awesome/creepy villain.
those would all be awesome :D
WOAH! :o :o :o That is a long list!
^ Maybe a little TOO long... :-\
Some of those are too obscure and specific to really work. Ya see, this is why Jacques focused on animals native to the UK.
I'd keep it simple myself.
And TC, we ALREADY had a tortoise (Rakkety Tam) and Kangaroo rats (Loamhedge)
I'd put some big cats like Lions and Tigers.
Quote from: Vilu Daskar on February 18, 2014, 07:37:35 PM
I'd put some big cats like Lions and Tigers.
What about Bears..... ;D ;D ;D
Bears
Wolves
Raccoons
White-tailed Deer
More cats in general....
Chipmunks
But I recently did a project on Brian and his life, and you know what? He mainly focused on animals native to the UK, as someone already said.
I'm pretty sure that it's common knowledge that Brian focused on the UK but did you notice that when the characters travel to distant lands they meet different creatures? Monitor lizards are not native to the UK, nor are they native to Mossflower. They are, however, native to Sampetra which is probably based on the places where Monitors live in real life (can't be bothered to look it up). There were also times when the foreigners came to the Redwallers, Plugg Firetail was a grey fox, they are NOT native to the British Isles. Then there's Gulo, Askor and the arctic foxes, none of those are native to Britain either.
My point is those animals in my list could have migrated from distant lands or live in lands the Redwallers travel to
@JangoCoolguy: Meh, I'm kind of an animal nerd and really don't care if they're obscure. Also what does TC mean? Those things in Loamhedge were Jerboa, not Kangaroo rats
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on February 18, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
@JangoCoolguy: Meh, I'm kind of an animal nerd and really don't care if they're obscure. Also what does TC mean?
"TC" means "topic creator".
QuoteThose things in Loamhedge were Jerboa, not Kangaroo rats
*looks it up*
Eh, sounds close enough to me! :P
To be honest, I would've liked to see skunks more than anything else. Chipmunks would've fit well in my opinion.
I can't help wondering, would Redwall still be Redwall if it kept introducing yet more animals that have come from any old country? I quite respect that Brian kept some limit. :)
I think as long as the animal doesn't get too large, like larger than a wolf, then any could fit in to the world. That's a big list there... so I'll just nod and say a lot of them would be good. :P
'ere'z an intereztin' Animal: A Marsupial Mole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsupial_mole)!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Notoryctes_typhlops.jpg)
That's the fuzziest... Most adorable... Yeah it's kind of cute.
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608023187107021643&w=250&h=181&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7)
what about the rare Horse-bird?
Uh.....The horse bird?
One word: Photoshop
Or what about the real-life Hippogriff?
(http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3.amazonaws.com/4770000/4770255_6e5a_1024x2000.jpg)
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on February 20, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
One word: Photoshop
I have no idea what you're talking about ;D
7 words: Bad photoshop to create a creepy thing
Lemmings
Pokemon.
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on February 24, 2014, 05:46:55 PM
Pokemon.
That would actually be really interesting, prepare for ridiculous fanfiction (or not since I'll probably keep it private
Beavers.
Binturoungs? ;D
Beetles and bugs. I know there are ants, but I don't hunk others are mentioned.
Quote from: Norham Waterpaw on March 04, 2014, 01:36:50 AM
Binturoungs? ;D
What on earth is a BinturoUng?
Now if that didn't have the second u I would agree wholeheartedly :D
Also I would have put at least one deer sighting in the book - or is there one? - as they are mentioned.
Quote from: MeadowRabbit on March 13, 2014, 12:06:24 PM
Also I would have put at least one deer sighting in the book - or is there one? - as they are mentioned.
They mentioned a Stag in
Redwall but I'm not sure if that counts.
Yeah. I don't really even know if deer are in the UK. :P
They most certainly are
i would add in crocodiles (saltwater) to that list.they would be like giants and they can be one-beast armies!!!
Interesting idea Willruth, and welcome to the forum!
A Lynx (even writing a fanfic featuring one)
A Skunk
A Possum
A Wolf
Horses or another equine (all those carts/wagons and people pull them themselves?)
An Alligator or Crocodile
An Octopus or Squid
A Chameleon (as a ninja style stealth assassin ;) )
A Parrot
A Pig, Hog or Boar
Chickens
Cows (all that cheese and cream has to come from somewhere)
Some Sheep, Goats or Rams
Dogs
Deer or something similar
A Bear
A Tasmanian Devil (if they thought Gulo was a pain in the [behind]...)
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 17, 2014, 06:20:04 PM
Yeah. I don't really even know if deer are in the UK. :P
We have a few varieties, many originally alien species. I think only two kinds are truly native.
Ah. . .
Quote from: MeadowRabbit on March 13, 2014, 12:06:24 PM
Also I would have put at least one deer sighting in the book - or is there one? - as they are mentioned.
There's a deer skull on the cover for Salamandastron, I reckon that's the only mention of 'em besides
Redwall.
Yes I think I will make a fanfiction about a crocodile giant wanderer :D...
@Jango: A long time ago, carts were pulled by hand so it's not strange that the Redwallers would pull theirs by hand. Also, greensap (I think) milk is mentioned a couple of times, I'm not sure if that's the right name but it's milk that doesn't require a cow. Quick tip, when making a list like that, use the plural forms as the transition from one to next feels a fair amount less awkward than it does when you state them in singularity. ;)
Well, I'm pretty sure greensap milk is a thing, because there is almond milk and rice milk. They aren't dairy.
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 20, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure greensap milk is a thing, because there is almond milk and rice milk. They aren't dairy.
I think Greensap milk is made out of a plant.
Quote from: Tam and Martin on March 20, 2014, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 20, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure greensap milk is a thing, because there is almond milk and rice milk. They aren't dairy.
I think Greensap milk is made out of a plant.
I heard (if I'm remembering correctly) that it was made out of a certain type of bark. :o
Well, think about it: greensap.
Makes sense enough.
Quote from: danflorreguba on March 20, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
@Jango: A long time ago, carts were pulled by hand so it's not strange that the Redwallers would pull theirs by hand.
Still sounds like a total pain.
And thanks to people bringing up the funny milk. That would explain, well...
everythingI realize animal stories are always iffy about what to do with non-sentient animals--especially in the Tales of Redwall where they don't use anything from other animals as much as Hindus--but it only makes sense to use them for some things
Quote from: danflorreguba on March 21, 2014, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on March 20, 2014, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 20, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure greensap milk is a thing, because there is almond milk and rice milk. They aren't dairy.
I think Greensap milk is made out of a plant.
I heard (if I'm remembering correctly) that it was made out of a certain type of bark. :o
Oh yeah.....That might've been it.
If Brian did a South American theme, there could have been chinchillas.
That would be amazing.
Is jaguar on this list?
It has been mentioned before and I whole heatedly agree the opossums and raccoons would have made an awesome addition to the Redwall vermin roster.
That's a long list! Wolves would be neat, so as raccoons.
Quote from: Banya Streamdog on April 13, 2014, 09:07:56 PM
That's a long list! Wolves would be neat, so as raccoons.
There already are wolves ::)
I think it's good the way it is...
What if there was a skunk in Redwall! :o
:o
I would love a guinea pig!!!
I have two and they're soooooooooooo adorable
That would be a good one. One of our guinea pigs weighs 4 pounds. :o
Welcome to the forum, Brook!
Are kinkajous on the list?
(http://www.joanembery.com/Graphics/wildlifeambgraphics/Kinkajou-1027_3158a_full.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0EpZOEevgiM/UWZhS2KnqAI/AAAAAAAAXj0/e42hXv_m3BE/s640/Kinkajou.jpg)
(http://img.answcdn.com/view:feature/getty/exotic-mammals/ba9ed5a0/90104614.jpg)
(http://www.blue-n-gold.com/halfdan/kinkhanging.jpg)
They're rain forest animals, and they're freakin' amazing.
XD
I might add raccoons, possibly....
Quote from: Dag Downyfur on May 19, 2014, 11:33:34 PM
Are kinkajous on the list?
(http://www.joanembery.com/Graphics/wildlifeambgraphics/Kinkajou-1027_3158a_full.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0EpZOEevgiM/UWZhS2KnqAI/AAAAAAAAXj0/e42hXv_m3BE/s640/Kinkajou.jpg)
(http://img.answcdn.com/view:feature/getty/exotic-mammals/ba9ed5a0/90104614.jpg)
(http://www.blue-n-gold.com/halfdan/kinkhanging.jpg)
They're rain forest animals, and they're freakin' amazing.
XD
They are indeed on my list
Quote from: Tam and Martin on April 14, 2014, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Banya Streamdog on April 13, 2014, 09:07:56 PM
That's a long list! Wolves would be neat, so as raccoons.
There already are wolves ::)
As far as I remember, they were only mentioned. (A pelt doesn't count as the actual thing :P Only a living breathing one that did something)
I thought the lord of dark forest was a wolf cant remember his name... :P
I am surprised that unless I am mistaken no one said a Pika, I also agree with Chipmunks and I know this was in the book but I would like to have seen a few more rabbits. Perhaps a flying squirrel though I think that might have been overkill.
Well, they were mentioned so that automatically tells me that they are in the redwall series. Whether a pelt or not, it was living once.
Which one? Pronoun trouble. I listed several and so did others. To which animal are you referring?
Are you talking to me Faiy?
Yes you.
I am referring to the Wolf in the Bellmaker.
Yesssssss.
I would adore Fossas to be a part of redwall. They are one of my favorite animals.
I would also like Mongoose (I don't know the plural to Mongoose) to be a part of redwall.
Platypuses would be awesome to have in redwall, I would imagine them being like seals as in doesn't wear clothes and speaks strangely (an australian accent would be great) I would want them to only be in one book.
I would also like Tenrecs, Puffins, Chipmunks, Coyotes, Skunks and other weasel types like Minks or Fishers.
Quote from: Shinyjoltik on April 13, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
It has been mentioned before and I whole heatedly agree the opossums and raccoons would have made an awesome addition to the Redwall vermin roster.
Thank you for spelling Opossums correctly.
P.S. Sorry for double posting!