Redwall Abbey

By wielder, I mean anyone who had possesion of it for a while or used it, baddies and good. If I made a mistake I'll edit. please choose your first, second, and third choices.

I think Braggon is the best. He's so cool

In terms of skill, I'd say Martin (at the end of Mossflower, and in Legend of Luke), Matthias (in Mattimeo), and Rakkety Tam.

I think these three are the most experienced of all the swordwielders, and have the most feats performed (which are valuable when evaluating heroes).

Luke comes in narrowly behind because he's basically equivalent to Martin at the beginning of Mossflower. I suppose you could put Deyna in too -- I wouldn't rank him as high as the top three, but he might be as good as Luke, skill-wise. Then all of the others who have less feats or less experience that we hear about, like Mattimeo, Martin II, etc. come after.

I personally think Martin is the best wielder.

What about Triss, Horty, Abbess Fenna, Dandin, And Dannflo? They all wielded the sword.

Martin, Rakkety Tam, and Luke.  I really like the sword play that Martin does in TLOL.  I wish I could have seen it.

Martin the Warrior, Matthias and Rakkety Tam. They were all great.

I chose Martin - the sword was made for him, after all! I also chose Rakkety Tam, purely because I like him. He also had some skill with a sword beforehand, which gives him more points in my book. I like him because he wasn't one of those beasts who picked up the sword and almost magically gained master swordsmanship powers.

Quote from: Lily on September 23, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
I chose Martin - the sword was made for him, after all!

Yeah, who said anyone else could use it?!

Martin the Warrioir, obviously. It WAS his sword, after all. Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

Skalrag- Abbes Fenna and Horty used it once only for a short time. I meant more like owners or users for an entire battle, not just on incident. I'll edit the others in though

Daniel of Redwall I agree with you about Rakkety Tam. A few people who had never used weapons before suddenly became amazing at it. However, the sword of Martin, i think, is supposed to represent his spirit, which becomes part of the weilder, giving them his fighting ablilties. Quite a few times, wielders comment on the fact that the sword is like no other when congragulated for master swordplay, as if it affected their style.

And why has no one voted for Bragoon? He's the best!

Oops sorry I meant redwall musician in my first part. Sorry Skalrag

Muse, please don't double post. Edit or modify your original post.

Oh okay

Btw,Nightdire, I think in Legend of Luke Luke says something about his father handing him down the sword. We have no idea how old the sword is.

*referin' tae the two pozt abov him* In one ear an' oat the other, ah reckon...

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Muse is right that Luke isn't the first to use it, just the first that we see in person. I believe the first known beast to carry it was likely Martin the Elder Warrior, Luke's grandfather (although other sources claim he was Luke's father).

Quote from: James Gryphon on September 25, 2011, 12:42:14 AM...just the first that we see in person. I believe.........

Widnae it be "in mouze" or zomethin' along tha' line?

I believe it was Martin the Elder who was the first wielder, but who actually made it? I know Boar made the new blade and all that history, but I can't remember it ever being mentioned who made the original sword.

We dont know who made it, I dont think. I wonder if Brian J had anything to say about it.

james Gryphon-sorry, but those two posts were a day apart. I thought that was ok sorry.

Quote from: Nightfire on September 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

In a way he was, but in another way he wasn't. He was the first we know to hold the sword hilt, but with a different blade on top.

I wonder if the original sword was also made by a badger

It's a good point:  who makes all the blades?  Badger lords are known to make fine weapons for good creatures, but what about the vermin's blades?
Luke IMO, is a great character.  However, I don't really know if he should be considered one of the best wielders because we never get to see him use the sword.  He leaves it at home with Martin.

Quote from: Dotti on September 25, 2011, 08:12:40 PM
It's a good point:  who makes all the blades?  Badger lords are known to make fine weapons for good creatures, but what about the vermin's blades?
Luke IMO, is a great character.  However, I don't really know if he should be considered one of the best wielders because we never get to see him use the sword.  He leaves it at home with Martin.

I think vermin steal their weapons, or use sharp bits of rock. Not too sure, though. Interesting question.

yeah Ive wondered that before. And where do they get all the other metal things in the abbey?

I always thought Dannflor was pretty great with the sword

Martin for being its namesake and I guess making the sword threatening without using it much (a vermin wouldn't want to be staring into those determined eyes of his), Matthias for similarly making noble use of the blade, and... I forget if Rakkety Tam was using a claymore for most of his adventure, but he made good use of the swords he was given and used Martin's sword during the final battle.

Well, he carried his claymore for about the first half of the book, but by the time he has cause to use a sword, Yoofus had stolen his claymore and he used Martin's sword.  I'm not sure if we ever even see him in action with his claymore save for killing the ermine at the ship.

As far as the origin of weapons: All of the Long Patrol's bladed weapons are obviously made by the Badger Lord or Lady of Salamandastron, though presumably the hares themselves make their longbows. The Guosim make their own rapiers, which indicates that they must have great forging skill, no less than that of the badger lords -- real-life rapiers were made out of steel, and would be difficult for a less advanced society, like that exhibited among the corsairs, to make.

However, the vermin themselves do probably make most of their own weapons. Cluny the Scourge, for instance, had an armorer, who was presumably a rat like himself. The Thousand Eyes Army was decked out with full armor, and even the mercenary Bane carried a particularly nice curved blade. The dagger Gabool uses is described by Rawnblade Widestripe as being pretty good steel, for a sea rat blade. They also make their own bows and arrows, although, according to Redwall, rats are notoriously bad at that craft.

In other words, while their equipment is generally inferior to the workbeastship of the Badger Lord or evidently of the shrews, the vermin still have a strong military tradition, and many vermin hordes are able to equip at least some of their troops with decent weapons. Their exact origin is and will forever remain unknown, but presumably there was some vermin blacksmith somewhere that produced his mates' weapons. I imagine that such a beast, even if clumsy compared to the good creatures' weapon-makers, would have a high rank in any vermin horde, given his invaluable skills and unique role.

I agree, but what about the little things at the abbey, like doorknockers, and door hinges? I cant see a badger making those.

Well Ferdy and Coggs in the Legend of Luke made the weather vane in the cellar. They probably made stuff like that by themselves in some way

I suppose.. but still so many things...

i'm not counting martin cause it was his sword so i picked rakkety tam bragoon and samkim

Martin, Matthias, and Rakkety Tam

Yeah, Braggon is definitely the best. What about King Bull Sparra?

Quote from: from Musician's spelling lessonWield: To hold or use skillfully.

In that case, would Asmodeus even have been counted as a wielder?

And King Bull Sparra, we never get to see him use it. All he did was lose the sword to Asmodeus.

Quote from: Redwall Musician on October 04, 2011, 02:22:38 PM

Quote from: from Musician's spelling lessonWield: To hold or use skillfully.

And King Bull Sparra, we never get to see him use it. All he did was lose the sword to Asmodeus.

Warbeak's mother (I forgot the name) did say he dug for worms with it though.

Quote from: Dotti on September 23, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
Martin, Rakkety Tam, and Luke.  I really like the sword play that Martin does in TLOL.  I wish I could have seen it.

thats exactly what i was thinking!

Warbeaks' mother was called Dunwing.

And Martin is and always will be the best wielder of the sword. It WAS made specifically for him, after all.

Quote from: Nightfire on October 05, 2011, 10:32:51 PM
Martin is and always will be the best wielder of the sword. It WAS made specifically for him, after all.

Yup.  Pretty much sums it up right there.  Since none of the great swordbeasts ever compete, (or even live in the same time period for the most part) we can't really judge who's the best.  They're substantially better than the other beasts around them and good enough to beat the bad guy, but that's really about all we can say.

The actual first known wielder of the sword was Martin Sr., the grandfather of Martin the Warrior. Though it was mentioned that Martin Sr. had a father who wielded it first. So if you want to go by that logic, the "sword" was made for the unknown father of Martin Sr. But in Mossflower the "blade" was made for Martin the Warrior. Make sense?

Well, when we think sword, we think the long blade. The HILT was made for Martin Sr.'s father, but the sword was forged anew into a completely different weapon. I think Board may have even modified the hilt substantially.

No he din't! I remember Boar saying how great and sturdy the hilt was. I doubt he would change it. He worked on a forge, he was not a wood worker.

...The hilt of Martin's sword wasn't wood, was it??  I always pictured it as being....more metal I guess.  Or something a little more sturdy and long-lasting than wood.  ???

It was metal. Definitely metal. Have you seen the illustrations on the covers of the books? It is METAL, not wood!

I always saw it as wood. How would it have broken if it wasn't on a wood hilt? I guess It could have, but still. Besides, some covers show made of WOOD:

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlfKwLs46LRB1E8isUctdyiDQF7zGKbrtngsEP_7sQ8Da4XYAI)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWHmR2S8aY988CPI33WbDJxP1wI4K73lgQlTu3U_DVs_VLYrO2)
This one is hard to see, but it is wood.

But now that I think of it, the sword could have been both, metal and wood together. It's hard to know for sure.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQML-Z_IkKQ_ZxlwUeJNY7RaApbAVH5nHvJhAXlUF_iAF8rcZVt)
Is it just me, or does this look like metal and wood?

Anyways, cover are not always right. But still, Boar wouldn't do much to the hilt.

Well, the sword shown on the Martin the Warrior cover wouldn't be his sword, would it? After all, Badrang held it for 99% of the book, and I doubt the scene the cover is portraying is after Badrang's death; Martin looks too exuberant for that.

In any case, there's an illustration of Martin's sword here (http://images.wikia.com/redwall/images/6/61/Martin002.jpg), with the hilt in plain sight.

It's worth noting, though, that whether the hilt is wood or not, I'm not sure we would be able to see it. Mossflower notes that the hilt was "restrapped with hard black leather", which indicates it was covered with another kind of leather before. In real life, strapping the hilt with leather was apparently not uncommon, so I guess there's no way to know for sure what it was made out of.

Yeah, the sword on the cover of Martin the Warrior is actually Queen Amballa's 'sword' that was given to Martin for him to use as a dagger. It could have been a mix of wood and metal, such as the grip was wood overlaid with leather, and the crosspiece and pommel were metal.

If you notice, I said either weilder or owner. In that case, King Bull Sparra and Asmodeus both apply.
The hilt was definitel metal. It is described as leather wrapped metal, I believ, with a gem at the end. Wood just doesn't seem right.

What I don't get is Asmodeaus(sorry for spelling)is a snake.How would he be able to hold the sword.

Exactly. he never used it, but kept it for a long time.

I think the hilt would have been both metal and wood. The unsharpened base of the blade, called the tang, would probably have been encased in wood and then that wood would have been bound in leather to make the hilt. Granted, I only know about Japanese sword making, but I assume the basic principle is the same.

I found a nice picture for you all:
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/sword-making-diagram.jpg)

Cool

Can you please put Arven on the list?

Done.

I still think that Martin is THE best weilder. And as for how Asmodeus could have held the sword, I think he held it by curling his tail around the hilt and gripping it that way.

Yeah, good point. originaly,I meant held as in owned it. Sorry for the confusion!

I would have to say that Rakkety Tam and deyna the taggerung where better weilders of Martin's sword than he was. Reason I say this is that Rakkety managed to slay an armed wolverine without armour on whereas Martin sustained much more grievous injuries with armour and fighting an unarmed wildcat. Martin however would of probably had physical strenght similar to that of Rakkety Tam, the reason I say this is that Martin in one on one unarmed combat managed to defeat the leader of the Garr tribe of squirrels who was described as being a large squirrel. He also managed to support Felldoh a squirrel standing on him. Hence I think physically Martin and Rakkety were probably of similar strenght. Now if you compare Gulo and Tsarmina I would say that Gulo had a definite advantage over her in terms of unarmed combat. Wolverines were probably the only creatures that could fight a badger in unarmed combat and emerge victorious. Furthermore an unarmed Gulo didnt really manage to do much against Rakkety Tam who only had a shield and sword and hence asked for a claymore.

Deyna the Taggerung had a clear physical advantage over Martin and also was an extremely skilled swordbeast having spent 15 seasons of his life being trained to fight by Swaney.

Quote from: Gulo on October 28, 2011, 07:27:43 PM
Reason I say this is that Rakkety managed to slay an armed wolverine without armour on whereas Martin sustained much more grievous injuries with armour and fighting an unarmed wildcat.

Firstly, I'd like to say that as a proud cat owner, domestic cats are never "unarmed", as long as they still have their claws intact. Even housecats are born killers, so a notably larger wildcat, like Tsarmina, would still be very lethal even without a sword. ;)

In real life, it turns out that wolverines really aren't that fast. I once said that Tam didn't seem to have a massive speed advantage over Gulo, but it's possible that still might have played a certain factor in keeping him alive -- after all, if Gulo moved as fast as he did I don't think Tam could have survived.

On the other hand, we know that cats, of course, have amazingly quick reflexes when they're preying on things, so with that, and the "sidestep" quote I provided in the Matthias topic, I think it's safe to say that Tsarmina is as quick as Martin is -- which, considering her greater size, is definitely a point in her favor. Gulo obviously has a lot more physical resilience, but cats are possibly the most dangerous predators on Earth when it comes to killing small mammals, so the difference between her and Gulo, when it comes to killing smaller creatures, might be a little overrated. Martin's sword is capable of slicing either of them up equally well, so I suspect Gulo's toughness might not be as much of an advantage as Tsarmina's speed. I think his greater strength is almost a moot point, since both the wolverine and the wildcat are going to be much stronger than either the mouse or the squirrel. Comparing a wildcat and a wolverine over their ability to overpower prey mammals is just comparing "overkill" and "even more overkill."

With that in mind, although I agree a wildcat wouldn't fare well in a fight with a wolverine, Martin's sword negates the wolverine's physical toughness, so the wildcat might still be more lethal in a fight against a smaller mammal, because it's as agile as they are and the wolverine isn't.

All that said, I have to admit that I am very biased in favor of Martin and Tsarmina, so feel free to take this with a pound of salt.

YOU FORGOT THE CRAZED HARE MOTHER THAT KILLED ZWILT IN THE SABLE QUEEN TUT TUT

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everybeast it is martin's sword. i think he can weild it the best. just saying

Martin of course because it's HIS sword, but a quick question: Did Badrang ever actually use Martin's sword to do things other than cut down random hordebeast's kilts, or was it more like a trophy?

I would have to say Martin.(The sword being his in the first place.)
What about Bosie from Doomwyte being on the list?

Rakkety Tam. He was a skilled fighter from the beginning, while Martin was trained by Boar, in the middle of his lifetime. Mister Macburl also knew how to use almost every single weapon.

I'd say Martin himself.

Matthias was epic when he killed Cluny and Asmodeus though.

Vizka, he was able to effectively use it while swinging around a mace and chain, that's very impressive especially since he probably hasn't ever used a sword before.

Quote from: James Gryphon on October 28, 2011, 08:36:29 PM

Quote from: Gulo on October 28, 2011, 07:27:43 PM
Reason I say this is that Rakkety managed to slay an armed wolverine without armour on whereas Martin sustained much more grievous injuries with armour and fighting an unarmed wildcat.

Firstly, I'd like to say that as a proud cat owner, domestic cats are never "unarmed", as long as they still have their claws intact. Even housecats are born killers, so a notably larger wildcat, like Tsarmina, would still be very lethal even without a sword. ;)

In real life, it turns out that wolverines really aren't that fast. I once said that Tam didn't seem to have a massive speed advantage over Gulo, but it's possible that still might have played a certain factor in keeping him alive -- after all, if Gulo moved as fast as he did I don't think Tam could have survived.

On the other hand, we know that cats, of course, have amazingly quick reflexes when they're preying on things, so with that, and the "sidestep" quote I provided in the Matthias topic, I think it's safe to say that Tsarmina is as quick as Martin is -- which, considering her greater size, is definitely a point in her favor. Gulo obviously has a lot more physical resilience, but cats are possibly the most dangerous predators on Earth when it comes to killing small mammals, so the difference between her and Gulo, when it comes to killing smaller creatures, might be a little overrated. Martin's sword is capable of slicing either of them up equally well, so I suspect Gulo's toughness might not be as much of an advantage as Tsarmina's speed. I think his greater strength is almost a moot point, since both the wolverine and the wildcat are going to be much stronger than either the mouse or the squirrel. Comparing a wildcat and a wolverine over their ability to overpower prey mammals is just comparing "overkill" and "even more overkill."

With that in mind, although I agree a wildcat wouldn't fare well in a fight with a wolverine, Martin's sword negates the wolverine's physical toughness, so the wildcat might still be more lethal in a fight against a smaller mammal, because it's as agile as they are and the wolverine isn't.

All that said, I have to admit that I am very biased in favor of Martin and Tsarmina, so feel free to take this with a pound of salt.

Wildcat or housecat vs. wolverine absolutely no comparison or no chance for the cat. Wolverines are tanks theyll chase away a pack of wolves from a kill, and even kill adult caribou that have been caught in a snow drift. Theyre also able to take a lot of damage before dying and theyre jaws are even locked into their skulls at the hinge giving them bone crushing strenght and they do indeed eat the bones of large animals. I must say some of the points youve raised here are quite interesting especially in regards to their effectiveness to kill small animals in terms of wildcat vs. wolverine. But still just the brute power and its ability to take damage I think would compensate for its lack of agility I dont think I can stress enough that in real life wolverines are absolute tanks they will eat a housecat or wildcat for lunch. It has been noted to even fight against bears and cougars. Although the outcome is usually in the cougar or bears favor but still they just dont back down from anything even creatures many times their size. Thats is why I find rakety tam who is a squirrel killing a wolverine probably the greatest deed in redwall just due to the fact how wolverines are in real life.

I suppose it could also stand to reason that Rakkety Tam won by luck and supernatural help Martin telling him to sharpen the edges of his sheild before battle and that while Rakkety Tam was lying the ditch he was badly wounded while Gulo even though he was wounded from Rakkety he seemed more or less fine prior to getting beheaded by the sheild none of his wounds were mortal or overly serious while Rakkety spent considerable time in the infirmy. Rakkety throwing Gulo on the shield could be seen as a lucky hit I suppose much Gabool managed to stab Rawnblade in the chest with a dagger a wound that would likely be fatal had Rawnblade not been wearing armour. But then again Tsarmina did drown herself from what I remember.       

QuoteWildcat or housecat vs. wolverine absolutely no comparison or no chance for the cat.

Agreed

QuoteWolverines are tanks theyll chase away a pack of wolves from a kill

The only reason they are able to do this is because of their pungent smell and their aggressiveness, in a fight to the death a wolf would overcome a wolverine.

Quote, and even kill adult caribou that have been caught in a snow drift.

These caribou are usually on their last legs and do not put up much of a fight.

QuoteTheyre also able to take a lot of damage before dying and theyre jaws are even locked into their skulls at the hinge giving them bone crushing strenght and they do indeed eat the bones of large animals.

A wolverines durability is most likely over exaggerated and while it may have a bone crushing bite it most likely won't be able to accomplish that on a living animal.

QuoteI must say some of the points youve raised here are quite interesting especially in regards to their effectiveness to kill small animals in terms of wildcat vs. wolverine. But still just the brute power and its ability to take damage I think would compensate for its lack of agility I dont think I can stress enough that in real life wolverines are absolute tanks they will eat a housecat or wildcat for lunch.

I think you are actually overestimating the cat here, wolverines weigh up to about twenty to fifty pounds while large wildcats rarely hit the thirty pound range. If a wolverine and cat where to meet it the cat wouldn't be able to hold its own for more than eight seconds.

QuoteIt has been noted to even fight against bears and cougars. Although the outcome is usually in the cougar or bears favor but still they just dont back down from anything even creatures many times their size. Thats is why I find rakety tam who is a squirrel killing a wolverine probably the greatest deed in redwall just due to the fact how wolverines are in real life.

Again those accounts are generally surrounded by myth and rumors and I don't see why people find their audacity so impressive. I mean would you call a man dumb or brave if he decided to punch a polar bear in the face?

i think martin was the best wielder he killed a WILDCAT with it



p.s. i forged a copy of martin's sword with hardened tempered steel

I liked Buckler (the main hare from the sable queen) beacause instead of magicaly finding martin's sword and killing someone right off the bat. He stuck with his own sword and still kicked but. ;D

duh... Martin I. Does it even need to be said?!

I agree Martin the warrior.  ;D
I'd give a close second to Matthias (just my opinion). :D

Quote from: Nightfire on September 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Martin the Warrioir, obviously. It WAS his sword, after all. Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

Martin was not exactly the first wielder of the sword, maybe the badger lords repaired it, but that does not mean it was made for him.
Luke, his father, passed it down to him, just like his grandpa had to his father, great grand sire to his grand father... ??? :-\

Quote from: ilovemariel on January 18, 2012, 11:45:25 AM

Quote from: Nightfire on September 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Martin the Warrioir, obviously. It WAS his sword, after all. Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

Martin was not exactly the first wielder of the sword, maybe the badger lords repaired it, but that does not mean it was made for him.
Luke, his father, passed it down to him, just like his grandpa had to his father, great grand sire to his grand father... ??? :-\

Still he was the best wielder.

Actually, that's incorrect.  Martin was given a sword by his father, who had gotten it from his father, and was later broken by Tsarmina.  However, the sword of Martin used by many creatures is an entirely new one, made for him by Boar the Fighter.  Or at very least the blade is entirely new, Boar may have used Martin's old hilt, I can't remember.

Quote from: Bragoon on January 18, 2012, 05:55:41 PM
Actually, that's incorrect.  Martin was given a sword by his father, who had gotten it from his father, and was later broken by Tsarmina.  However, the sword of Martin used by many creatures is an entirely new one, made for him by Boar the Fighter.  Or at very least the blade is entirely new, Boar may have used Martin's old hilt, I can't remember.

Yeah, Boar used the same hilt, as it says in Mossflower.

Ah, thanks.  I couldn't remember for sure, it's been a few months since I read Mossflower. 

I'm going to read mossflower pretty soon after I finish rogue crew.

Quote from: Nightfire on September 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Martin the Warrioir, obviously. It WAS his sword, after all. Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

Actually, Luke's unnamed father had the sword before him, and even before that Luke's grandfather Martin the Elder Warrior was the first holder of the sword.

Quote from: Lily on September 23, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
I chose Martin - the sword was made for him, after all! I also chose Rakkety Tam, purely because I like him. He also had some skill with a sword beforehand, which gives him more points in my book. I like him because he wasn't one of those beasts who picked up the sword and almost magically gained master swordsmanship powers.

for that same reason i picked Deyna and Martin. Both were highly experienced in bladeplay and unlike so many other characters (like our dear Matthias) had grown up using weapon as part of their livelihood. we know the story of martins youth from the TLOL and MTW, at an age when most of our redwall champions were still being taught in abbyschool. also Tagg (or Deyna)was taught from the start to be a ruthless efficient fighter, so much so in fact that he didn't even have to kill as he could disarm and immobilize an opponent before. as for many of the vermin, look at then experienced corsairs and warlords, usually beaten by much younger and inexperienced fighters.

I think Matthias was a good wielder. He even didn't kill Cluny. The bell did.

I say Denya, Triss, and ummmmm Luke :P

Martin, of corse!

Quote from: mahoney49733 on March 29, 2012, 11:01:05 PM

Quote from: Nightfire on September 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Martin the Warrioir, obviously. It WAS his sword, after all. Second best would be Luke, because he was the first wielder of the Sword, as far as we know.

Actually, Luke's unnamed father had the sword before him, and even before that Luke's grandfather Martin the Elder Warrior was the first holder of the sword.

Martin the Elder Warrior was Luke's FATHER and Martin's grandfather.

I chose both Martins and Rackety tam. Luke would have qualified but in technicality we really didn't seem him use the sword that often, and it was Luke's sword at that point.

I'm suprised that Clarinna isn't on here, because she actually did wield the sword once.

Asmodeus shouldn't be on the list, as he had the sword for a while, but never used it, as he never had hands.

King Bull Sparra also never used it as well.

Martin and Matthias both used the sword well, as did Dandin.

MARTIN!!!!

Badrang! Because Badrang pwns (excuse the internet terminology). ;)

My pick would be Martin the Warrior, Martin the Elder Warrior that is! ahahaha but, since he's not on the poll, I choose Martin the Warrior.  :P

My top picks would be Martin the Warrior and Bragoon.

Martin I

Martin, Rakkety Tam, and Deyna

Rakkety Tam!

Chose Martin for the first because, come on, it's his sword. I would have chosen Luke for first but we never see him use it in the entire series so I felt that he was not actually allowed to be on this poll. After Martin it was a popularity contest for me, I chose Dandin and Bragoon

Martin's sword was forged after Luke died so he couldn't have wielded it.

Delthion:  Not quite.  The blade was re-forged in Salamandastron after it had been broken by Tsarmina.  The hilt and crossguard were original, however.  Much like Narsil/Anduril in the Lord of the Rings- it was the same ancestral, sword, but with a new blade.

 Vizka Longtooth! He used it for a good purpose!

But in all seriousness, Martin really the best owner of it. Martin owned it originally and Martin helped reforge it, so really noone will ever have the same connection that Martin had to it.

Quote from: Albrithr on October 04, 2014, 11:27:43 PM
Delthion:  Not quite.  The blade was re-forged in Salamandastron after it had been broken by Tsarmina.  The hilt and crossguard were original, however.  Much like Narsil/Anduril in the Lord of the Rings- it was the same ancestral, sword, but with a new blade.

Yes, but when you think of a sword you think more of the blade, which was completely new, in this respect, Luke never wielded it.

Speaking as a bladesmith, there are very few different blades that could have been made to match the original handle. In order for the sword to be usable, the metal used would have to be around the same length and weight so as to be balanced with the handle, thus giving little options as to the shape. In the end, it would be little different from the original product.

Martin 1, Rakkety Tam, and then Sister Armel. In that order. ;D

YAY!!!!!!!!!

Martin, Tam, and Deyna acourse!

The worst sword bearer was, in my opinion, Dandin... After all, he never did anything with it! Mariel stole the spotlight from Redwall's champion with a piece of rope. Disgraceful.

I chose Martin, Martin II, and Matthias. 8)

Matthias and Arven are definitely my favorite.

No love for King Bull Sparra? Oh well.

Definitely Rakkety Tam (Haway the Braw!) but bragoon and deyna also use it well (but deyna is three)

Fun Fact: the sword was named after our martin but his grandfather of the same name