Do you think BJ should have put humans in Redwall?

[Lutra]

^ Point taken Daniel.  I think we can just go on forever with this topic.  Its all in how you interpret Redwall...are the characters the humans in themselves because they have abbeys and weapons, like humans?  I don't think we needed actual humans in Redwall....the animals were human-like enough. 

[winifred]

I don't think so! They would ruin everything! Probably set traps and shoot birds, and cruel stuff like that.
If you have an opinion please post it.

I think I quoted BJ on this before, but it's such a good quote I'll use it again: "Animals make better people than people."

Redwall would not be Redwall if he incorporated humans.  In fact, if you look at the original Redwall book, you can see some human elements that he decided to do away with (I'm thinking, just off the top of my head, of the big wagon Cluny and his gang found themselves in in the beginning...

he talked about goats milk and stuff like that and then it was greensap milk........no redwall simply could not and will not live with humans

[Coobreedan]

HUMANS ARE NOT IN THE REDWALL FORMULA! THIS TOPIC IS PRETTY POINTLESS IN MY MIND! THE NAME OF IT IS DO YOU THINK BJ SHOULD HAVE PUT HUMANS IN REDWALL?! AND GUESS WHAT? I SAY NOOOOOOO!



Sorry. Guess I sorta lost my cool there. No, he shouldn't have. I'm leaving this topic forever now. Good day.

[James Gryphon]

The problem is that everyone seems to lose their cool, and I honestly can't quite tell why. It's not as though the series couldn't conceivably have been written with humans in it; it's just a difference in style.

My best guess is that the words "should have put" mean that the question is whether or not Mr. Jacques made a major mistake in crafting his Redwall world, to which, of course, most people here will say "No" -- apparently rather empathetically.

I guess maybe a better name for the topic would have been, "What if Brian Jacques had put humans into Redwall"; maybe that would be more conducive to a discussion of hypotheticals.

[Dannflor]

naw it would stink

[James Gryphon]

I'm tempted to try to write Redwall fan fiction with humans in it just to prove that it can be done -- and that it needn't be the disaster* that everyone seems to think it would be.

*: As far as writing quality goes -- I make no promises that it'd be an easy ride for the heroes.

[eualaia]

one word about humans: EVIL

[Blademaster]

Maby if it was like a giant eleven year old

[Tiria Wildlough]

Or a BABY.

[Taggerung The Otter]

i proboally would not have been that into the series if he had

[Firewall978]

Humans are not in Redwall, it would be kind of weird, because a human could be good or evil. A human would have to be larger than all other creatures, too "Off-Scale".  Next thing you know he'd add a bear or something. So, no. No humans in redwall.

[Melody]

I'm glad he didn't put humans in redwall.

[Rollo the Baby Bankvole]

No, definitely not, humans don't really fit with Redwall at all, if humans were in Redwall I don't think I would be interested in the series. And besides, like others have already said in this topic, the animals are pretty close to humans in a way, they have similar weapons and some similar food. So no, no humans in Redwall for me!

[Superdreuzel]

No, definitly not

Question: If there were humans, would they be human sized and the animals the regular real world size, or be the same height of humans? I have always wondered ...

[eualaia]

HUMAN+redwall=NO