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Most Certifiably Insane Villain (We're Talkin' NUTS, People!)

Started by White One6193, July 17, 2012, 12:12:40 AM

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Cornflower MM


The Shade

A trilogy? What three books? Where did you get that from?
They told me I was gullible. I believed them.

It is well known that 47% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I used to leave out half my sentances, but now I

HeadInAnotherGalaxy

NARDOLE; You are completely out of your mind!
DOCTOR: How is that news to anyone?

"I am Yomin Carr, the harbinger of doom. I am the beginning of the end of your people!" -Yomin Carr

-Sometime later, the second mate was unexpectedly rescued by the subplot, which had been trailing a bit behind the boat (and the plot). The whole story moved along.

Ungatt Trunn

Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Vot aboot Gulo ze zavage? 'e vaz juzt aboot entirely mad az vell.
I don't think he went mad...I think he WAS mad! ;D

Life is too short to rush through it.

WildDoogyPlumm

Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on November 08, 2013, 06:06:49 AM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Vot aboot Gulo ze zavage? 'e vaz juzt aboot entirely mad az vell.
I don't think he went mad...I think he WAS mad! ;D
But he went even madder!
"Guid warriors cannae rest 'til those dirty slayers are paid out in steel for their crimes, ye ken?" - Doogy

Ungatt Trunn


Life is too short to rush through it.

WildDoogyPlumm

Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on November 08, 2013, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: WildDoogyPlumm on November 08, 2013, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on November 08, 2013, 06:06:49 AM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Vot aboot Gulo ze zavage? 'e vaz juzt aboot entirely mad az vell.
I don't think he went mad...I think he WAS mad! ;D
But he went even madder!
Very true...
*talking to a rock* "TELL MY BROTHER THAT I AM COMING!"
At least before he could make semi-rational decisions.
"Guid warriors cannae rest 'til those dirty slayers are paid out in steel for their crimes, ye ken?" - Doogy

Ungatt Trunn

Quote from: WildDoogyPlumm on November 08, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on November 08, 2013, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: WildDoogyPlumm on November 08, 2013, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on November 08, 2013, 06:06:49 AM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 30, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Vot aboot Gulo ze zavage? 'e vaz juzt aboot entirely mad az vell.
I don't think he went mad...I think he WAS mad! ;D
But he went even madder!
Very true...
*talking to a rock* "TELL MY BROTHER THAT I AM COMING!"
At least before he could make semi-rational decisions.
VERY true. ;D

Life is too short to rush through it.

Firetail

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REDWALL IS THE BEST

Jukka the Sling

Quote from: The Shade on October 24, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
A trilogy? What three books? Where did you get that from?
At first there were supposed to be only three books... Redwall, Mossflower, and Mattimeo.
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater." ~J.R.R. Tolkien

Ungatt Trunn


Life is too short to rush through it.

TW

We're only counting main villains, right? I think it's easier to ask which villain was the most sane! Just about all of them went bonkers by the end. I suppose the term insanity has to be well-defined because it can mean so many things. I'd have to make a list to really give an answer.

Insane:
Cluny- Spent most of the book hallucinating
Tsarmina- Spent most of the book hallucinating and became obsessed with killing Gingivere
Slagar- Went insane due to Asmodeus's poison and believed his own story that the Redwallers sent him and Sela to their deaths
Gabool- Hallucinated and started talking to the Joseph Bell
Clogg- Badrang gave him a nasty crack on the head, after which he spent his last scenes talking to corpses
Ublaz- Open to interpretation, but I believe he was so confident in his ability to frighten he really did believe he had a magic ability
Mokkan- Went mad with power, Lantur and Silth were pretty out there as well
Raga Bol- Became obsessed with escaping Lonna
Gulo- Ate other creatures live and became obsessed with killing Askor
Kaltag- I wasn't sure whether to include her as a main villain, but her son's death cut her ties to reality
Vizka Longtooth- I'm a bit fuzzy on him, but it sounds like he was killing his crew for no reason at the end

Sane:
Ferahgo- I can't remember him doing anything particularly out there
Badrang- He never seemed to panic until Martin reappeared, a fairly rational fear in my opinion
Swartt- Same as Ferahgo
Urgan Nagru- Same as Ferahgo
Damug Warfang- Same as Ferahgo
Vilu Daskar- I do remember him being sane to end, his defeat was in believing Luke's treasure story
Ungatt Trunn- Brocktree's visions shook him, but he was lucid enough that it never affected his cunning
Kurda- Her fault was in not being as good a swordfighter as she thought she was, she never fought someone that would fight back
Riggu Felis- Same as Ferahgo
Korvus Skurr- He wasn't so much insane as he was stupid and open to suggestion
Vilaya- She was always fairly cunning
Zwilt- He was pretty grounded in reality
Razzid Wearat- He was unintelligent, but not stupid like Korvus

Overall, after taking a look at the villains I'm going to have to revise my thoughts on Redwall villains. I guess my view of insanity led to the villains being split just about down the middle. I'm obviously a bit shaky on some villains, but it looks like Redwall villains aren't just insane. They have character flaws that the heroes can exploit. My vote for craziest villain has to go to Slagar. Tsarmina's a close second.
"In my books there is life and death. Goodies get killed as well as baddies. It's not like Walt Disney where there are singing teapots and we all go over the hill singing bobbidy-bobbidy-boo at the end so goodies get killed as well as baddies." -Brian Jacques

Ungatt Trunn


Life is too short to rush through it.

TW

I agree. He's definitely up there among my favorites with Slagar, Tsarmina, and Clogg.
"In my books there is life and death. Goodies get killed as well as baddies. It's not like Walt Disney where there are singing teapots and we all go over the hill singing bobbidy-bobbidy-boo at the end so goodies get killed as well as baddies." -Brian Jacques

Ungatt Trunn

Quote from: TW on November 30, 2013, 03:02:01 AM
I agree. He's definitely up there among my favorites with Slagar, Tsarmina, and Clogg.
He's my #1, VERY obviously. ;D

Life is too short to rush through it.