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Started by BadgerLordFiredrake, September 01, 2014, 06:31:52 PM

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BadgerLordFiredrake

I noticed in my (signed :3) copy of The Legend Of Luke, Krar has "archaic" speech, as said by either Gonff or Martin.  It reminds me of Middle Ages-style speech.  Any ideas about a sort of Middle Ages period before Redwalll/Loamhedge?  Sorry if this is in the wrong location.
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Izeroth

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 Redwall was set in a middle-ages period. Due to the fact that the redwallers use only primitive weapons and technology, one can assume they have not yet reached a different time.

BadgerLordFiredrake

Quote from: Izeroth on September 02, 2014, 03:06:48 AM
Redwall was set in a middle-ages period. Due to the fact that the redwallers use only primitive weapons and technology, one can assume they have not yet reached a different time.
Their speech seems more modern than Krar's, though.
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Tim Churchmouse

It's because BJ based his character's voices from places around the UK.
He chose to give Krar archaic speech was to make it seem more like the current time period.
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BadgerLordFiredrake

Quote from: Tim Churchmouse on September 03, 2014, 10:14:55 AM
It's because BJ based his character's voices from places around the UK.
He chose to give Krar archaic speech was to make it seem more like the current time period.
What about the Abbeydwellers' speech?  It didn't seem anything like that.
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Albrithr

The English language had three major forms: Old, Middle, and Modern English.  Middle English was spoken in the latter days of the Middle Ages, so it would make sense that Krar was speaking their equivalent of Old English, possibly.  Since this is one of the earlier books chronologically, it could be possible that he is one of the last vestiges of this older dialect, which had died out nearly everywhere else, and was practically extinct by the time of some of the later Redwall books. 

Tim Churchmouse

Quote from: BadgerLordFiredrake on September 06, 2014, 12:05:09 AM
Quote from: Tim Churchmouse on September 03, 2014, 10:14:55 AM
It's because BJ based his character's voices from places around the UK.
He chose to give Krar archaic speech was to make it seem more like the current time period.
What about the Abbeydwellers' speech?  It didn't seem anything like that.

the abbeydwellers speech are that of the typical time BJ wrote the books, so 1990s.
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BadgerLordFiredrake

Quote from: Albrithr on September 06, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
The English language had three major forms: Old, Middle, and Modern English.  Middle English was spoken in the latter days of the Middle Ages, so it would make sense that Krar was speaking their equivalent of Old English, possibly.  Since this is one of the earlier books chronologically, it could be possible that he is one of the last vestiges of this older dialect, which had died out nearly everywhere else, and was practically extinct by the time of some of the later Redwall books. 
That'd be interesting, since it'd imply another era of Mossflower culture.
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