The Guosim

Wylder Treejumper · January 27, 2016, 02:16:11 AM

What did you guys think of the Guosim? I've heard people say they were annoying, and I've heard people that loved them.

Banya · January 27, 2016, 12:24:12 PM

I really like the Guosim. Their bickering can be tiresome, but they're a hardworking group of good fighters who always step up to the aid of the protagonists, even though it costs them the lives of some of their own. They also add a good amount of humour. I admire the unity within their tribe and timelessness of their traditions. Over the ages, the Guosim has stayed the Guosim.

Wylder Treejumper · January 28, 2016, 07:50:03 PM

I like the Guosim in later books, but the very first ones (the one with the actual union and the blackstone) often got on my nerves. It just seemed counterproductive to have a tribe leader and a union leader, so I'm glad that got sorted out. I think early in the series, they were actually too argumentative.

Delthion · February 05, 2016, 04:16:05 AM

I thought it was quite comical, with the squabbling for the blackstone...that was quite hysterical!

alexandre · January 09, 2017, 04:28:00 AM

's been awhile since this topic has been posted on, but I have something to add. In the redwall TV series, the Guosim were characterized as communists (which isn't uncommon for any sort of tribe really). Also, the blackstone wasn't just used in the first book, it came up in Salamandastron I believe, it was used to recognize the Log-A-Log of all southern shrews.

Ashleg · January 09, 2017, 04:52:17 AM

The TV Series actually said the Guosim were communists? What the? XD

alexandre · January 09, 2017, 04:59:56 AM

It didn't explicitly say that, it just implied that. The Russian accents were a part of it as well

Ashleg · January 09, 2017, 05:12:03 AM

Interesting.
I only watched one episode of the show and it didn't even have shrews so I wouldn't know.

Gonff the Mousethief · January 09, 2017, 05:24:46 AM

Quote from: alexandre on January 09, 2017, 04:59:56 AM
It didn't explicitly say that, it just implied that. The Russian accents were a part of it as well

Wait, what? Really? I really didn't connect Log-A-Log and Stalin like that...

I really liked the Gousim at first. They were a cool part of Mossflower Wood which I enjoyed. It seemed every Log-A-Log was different and each group was fresh. Until the later books though. At that point, they just felt like an over used plot device to help the travelers. I really wished Brian could have spread them out more or given them a whole book rather than shoehorning them in all the time. A real shame. But I still enjoy them either way. They did have some killer rowing songs.

Ashleg · January 09, 2017, 06:13:28 AM

Which book was it that has the evil Log-a-Log? That will be a change.

Hickory · January 09, 2017, 01:06:08 PM

Doomwyte.

alexandre · January 09, 2017, 03:38:25 PM

evil he may have been, but that song about him is so awesome...

Ashleg · January 09, 2017, 04:39:45 PM

If only I could understand them better.

The Skarzs · January 09, 2017, 05:47:15 PM

Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 09, 2017, 05:24:46 AM
Quote from: alexandre on January 09, 2017, 04:59:56 AM
It didn't explicitly say that, it just implied that. The Russian accents were a part of it as well

Wait, what? Really? I really didn't connect Log-A-Log and Stalin like that...

Well, maybe not the ideals, but before they would do anything, they all had to agree on a course of action.

MeadowR · March 17, 2017, 09:47:48 PM

I like the Guoism! How they dress is fun and interesting, and shrews are pretty darn cute.

They were a good addition in the books, yet I agree with Gonff that they could, at times, seem just a convenience to get a character from A to B, or provide an extra number for an army, rather than being a bit more fleshed out characters in the books. Perhaps there could have been a book which focused more on the Guosim side of things, and then, of course, linking it with Redwall Abbey and whichever problem is afoot.

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