Mafia: The James Edition

[Gonff the Mousethief]

You know, I'm really wanting to vote either Soren or Fatch, but I'll see if Fatch has anything so say before I vote.

[Fatch of Southsward]

There are enough possible clues to identify every player left in the game as a mafia in that story.  I do think the emphasis on groups and location is not an accident. It's reoccurring and detailed. Someone smart - get on that and tell us what you think! 

Now to deal with a few other possibilities and things...

1) It should be remembered the Sky isn't necessarily confirmed town. The mafia could target one another, and a doctor can save a mafia from another mafia. So don't rule her out completely. 

2) I think the fact that one group of mafia did target her gives her ideas some validity. Perhaps she was right about one of them in her suspicions. Then again, they may have just been intimidated by her playing style. (I know I would be .)

3) Delthion was part of a group of mafia. It's very possible they would vote together - that's what mafia usually do. Two games ago, Corn and Rosie voted together every round until near the end. Del voted for himself, so I would recommend keeping a close eye on the people that didn't vote for Daskar. That mafia group may be keeping a low profile by abstaining.

4) I find it odd that Gonff thinks its me not because there is a clue indicating me, but because there isn't.  Like, what kind of logic is that? I never left my room seems to suggest that I didn't do anything, not the opposite. The reason I bring this up, is that Gonff has been really smart in previous rounds, and he rarely throws something like that out there. I second what Sky said earlier about him being quiet and less analytical than he has been in past rounds.

5) I think Groddil may be onto something with Soren and Del sending messages. They could have been planning who to accuse as mafia, who to vote for or who to kill next night. Either way, most town roles are most likely only to exchange messages with James. They wouldn't exchange with one another because they aren't sure who is mafia and who isn't. Mafia alone are sure about who is mafia and who isn't. This would make Delthion and Soren (as mafia cohorts) very comfortable to message one another.

Either that, or they easily could have been talking to other people about completely different things.  It's a toss up.

So yeah, right now I'm leaning towards sending my vote Soren's way. I'm going to wait a bit to see how the other leads and ideas play out. Please post defenses, accused! We mainly only executed Daskar because he didn't defend himself at all.

Also, I really like the stuff Eul was saying. I'm going to look into that some more before I decide who to vote for.

[Gonff the Mousethief]

Okay, so why I think you staying back would point to you.

Well, you wouldn't be gone with the others. That would give you time with Del while y'all waited for the soap and such, and maybe make you trust him some more. Plus, that was some time for you to plan with. But, this could be used for Soren who has just one more clue on him than anyone else. I'm not saying this evidence is strong in the slightest, but it's that I have two options, and I'm just hoping to vote the right one out.

Also, about me not being as anylitical. Everyone in this game but four people have a role. I think that now that there are six (now five), people along with a couple other roles that can kill you, you don't want to right then and there throw out everything you have on everybody. I'm only sharing right now my very sure thoughts. I still have a whole thought plan on what the heck was going on with everybody leaving, and I'm waiting to see if I get that right.

[Søren]

If us accused are supposed to post defenses, I was just telling Groddil to cool his jets. Del and me PM all the time, especially about shipping and stuff from the SFC. I have a ton of messages from him. The Master and Shadow shippers, remember?

[Fatch of Southsward]

@Gonff the Mousethief ... I've got me eye on you friend-O! 

I'm interested to hear your secret theories though. Be sure to post them if it looks like you're going to die! Wouldn't want to miss out on solid evidence!

@Søren This explanation, I can certainty believe. Especially given you two's antics in the cellars and hideouts.

I'm going to wait on voting for someone then.

[Hickory]

Sorry to shoot down the idea of skittles = Mafia, but as James says,

...also pass out some food coloring to put in the water, so that people who get killed will know which team got 'em."

Some other people are still waiting to vote, so I'll look over the story for my own investigating (and the stuff you guys said)

[Skyblade]

I will probably vote either Gonff or Rosie. Søren also fell out of my Town list.
Also, I will be as aggressive as usual, so please don't take anything personally.

Gonff. What makes me uneasy is his reaction to my calling him out. This page has it. This is actually a Mafia clue: a Mafia member hides low, but will post if he feels others are suspecting him. In the story, Gonff was one of the people at the front desk. He was one of the few people there when I mentioned going to the ice machine. I have more evidence, but this post is already quite long.

Yesterday, Rosie also posted right after being called out, saying that she didn't know it was Day or Night. I don't believe that. She voted in the poll, so she clearly knew it was day. This contradiction between her words and actions really worries me.

Søren I personally thought was Town yesterday. However, his posts today are more on the "could be Town, could be Mafia" side. Also, I wasn't going to take Groddil at face value when he said Sor and Del were PMing, but Søren didn't deny it. I think it's a big clue if they were PMing around the same time.

EDITS: I'm flip-flipping between Gonff and Rosie. Sorry, I'll stop editing now

[Fatch of Southsward]

I will probably vote either Gonff or Rosie. Søren also fell out of my Town list.
Also, I will be as aggressive as usual, so please don't take anything personally.

Gonff. What makes me uneasy is his reaction to my calling him out. This page has it. This is actually a Mafia clue: a Mafia member hides low, but will post if he feels others are suspecting him. In the story, Gonff was one of the people at the front desk. He was one of the few people there when I mentioned going to the ice machine. I have more evidence, but this post is already quite long.

Yesterday, Rosie also posted right after being called out, saying that she didn't know it was Day or Night. I don't believe that. She voted in the poll, so she clearly knew it was day. This contradiction between her words and actions really worries me.

Søren I personally thought was Town yesterday. However, his posts today are more on the "could be Town, could be Mafia" side. Also, I wasn't going to take Groddil at face value when he said Sor and Del were PMing, but Søren didn't deny it. I think it's a big clue if they were PMing around the same time.

EDITS: I'm flip-flipping between Gonff and Rosie. Sorry, I'll stop editing now

This so perfectly describes what I am thinking as well. Soren, Rosie, Gonff may all be Mafia...

[Rosie Willowwater]

I know saying anything will make people want to vote for me even more but here we go. I was explaining the reason why I hadn't posted much before then. I understood it when everyone started voting for other people though. I'm also not the best at analyzing stuff so I just wait until other people find the clues - or what they think are clues - and I just try and find out who I think seems most suspicious. 

[Gonff the Mousethief]

Well if you choose me Sky, then I truly believe you all will have beaten the odds of getting my just one, but two regular Town folk out in a row. Then y'all all would be in danger.

[Jetthebinturong]

Voting out multiple town in a row is not a rarity, nor is it dangerous yet.

[Aimless Gallivanter]

I'd like to point out what James stated early-on, that roles were randomized, so any argument against a 1 gendered team being highly unlikely simply because it doesn't seem like a good strategy is not a good argument. It's still very possible that a mafia team could be 1 gendered. (this is related back to what groddil was saying back a page)

[Cornflower MM]

I am just going 'What?' I have no idea of what to make of this. I think I shall just go back and read posts. Again.

[James Gryphon]

Well, have y'all come to any conclusions?

[Skyblade]

To be honest, I'm still stuck between Gonff, Rosie, and Soren. I'll vote Soren this round since he already has one vote and will be more likely to gain traction; I don't see anyone except Fatch agreeing with me on Gonff and Rosie and I don't want to vote for someone who won't even get lynched. And I have no evidence against Sage.

But Gonff and Rosie, I still have my eyes on you

2) I think the fact that one group of mafia did target her gives her ideas some validity. Perhaps she was right about one of them in her suspicions. Then again, they may have just been intimidated by her playing style. (I know I would be .)

I was thinking about this as well (especially since it was me that was targeted ). If either of the Mafia attempt to kill me again tonight, it may be worth looking into the people I've been suspecting.

Also, I'd thank you for the compliment, but you may be Mafia and just making that up