Do you think BJ should have put humans in Redwall?

[Taggerung_of_Redwall]

There's a serious difference between "stronger" and "strange" when it comes to their masters. It just sounds like wildcats defeated other beasts and conquered the ferals.

Anyway, very interesting. Actually, I remember that scene quite well, and the previous.

[DanielofRedwall]

To those people who have mentioned the Redwall book, let's not forget that the Redwall book has heaps of elements that don't appear in other novels. The story line changes considerably in the books that followed. Redwall was different to the other books and Brian was still creating and growing the world in that book, so he added and took away plenty of different things from that novel. That's why it's hinted that there may of been humans in Redwall, but after that novel the books don't say anything about humans, in fact it seems that the books make it seem impossible that humans could exist in the Redwall world. Hope that made sense!

[Taggerung_of_Redwall]

It was kinda random actually.

You sort of have a point. But humans being hinted at wasn't that drastic in Redwall I'd say

[Osu]

Eh, I was going from memory before I went and dug the book out. I think it's still all rather ambiguous, myself~ It wouldn't surprise me if humans were hinted at, but they'd never be mentioned.


Also: you guys post way fast, wow! XD

[Alessandro Reinares]

I don't it is necessary because people are huge compared to small animals like a mouse.

Al

[Tiria Wildlough]

Having humans would be worse than having Asmodeus!

[Osu]

Having humans would be worse than having Asmodeus!

Haha, yeah, that'd be interesting if there were humans as an enemy. The animals wouldn't stand a chance.

[sabretache5611]

Having humans would be worse than having Asmodeus!

Haha, yeah, that'd be interesting if there were humans as an enemy. The animals wouldn't stand a chance.

...as someone said earlier, salamandastrom would be just a hill...redwall...would be tiny too.  basically its redwalls worst nightmare.

no humans.  dont put, don't make it happen and we're all good 

[Log-a-Log]

I also remember BJ mentioning humans in Redwall very subtly. Something like Cluny came from a place with strange creatures who farmed or something like that.

I also found this on BJ's website when someone asked him if there were ever any humans,

"No, there are no humans, my first book Redwall did mention the horse and cart but no humans are ever in the stories and I don't intend that they should ever be. The ships are generally crewed by vermin."

Can't argue with that

[Tiria Wildlough]

Just think. They'd lay traps for the animals, shoot the hares, capture otters and badgers for their fur, and probably bulldoze Salamandastron. I was so scared that it would happen.

[Osu]

Just think. They'd lay traps for the animals, shoot the hares, capture otters and badgers for their fur, and probably bulldoze Salamandastron. I was so scared that it would happen.

It could be that I don't normally get online this early, but when I read this I laughed. XD Bulldoze Salamandastron... ahaha! Can you picture it? Oh man... ...that's terrible.

What if the humans were the same size as the animals? That'd even the odds up a bit, eh?

[Storm]

I can't imagine Redwall with humans. We would be horrible additions. It would have destroyed the series. Just a disgusting idea. 

[James Gryphon]

It would have destroyed the series. Just a disgusting idea.

I don't think it would be disgusting, or that it would have destroyed the series, but it would undeniably change things quite a bit... the tone of the series would probably resemble more Watership Down in some ways than what it is now, and that's a pretty substantial difference.

What if the humans were the same size as the animals? That'd even the odds up a bit, eh?

It would, but I think that would eliminate the whole point of putting humans in the story in the first place.

In my mind, the only reason to have humans in Redwall is if they have a similar effect on the world that they do in real-life; not an enemy to be defeated, but an invulnerable obstacle to be survived and avoided. Other than that, there's no need to have them, because the characters we have are better-suited to the Redwall story than any human character.

[Osu]

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. There's simply to point to adding humans to the picture.

Still. Bulldoze Salamandastron.... I will dream about this tonight, I just know it! XD

[HeadInAnotherGalaxy]

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. There's simply to point to adding humans to the picture.

Still. Bulldoze Salamandastron.... I will dream about this tonight, I just know it! XD

Just make sure the bulldozer isnae working for the Death Defying Beavers, ok?

(Oh no, now they've entered this thread! We're doomed. )