Now, i have read and become a HUGE fan of Red wall for as far back as when the show came out. As soon as I heard there were books, i was like no way, really? So, i read and I read and I read some more. pretty soon, i began to close my eyes and could see those four red stone walls, smell those steaming pies, and almost drink that delicious strawberry cordial. (I have now proudly coined the word "scrummy" now) It's all very descriptive and precise the way Jacques wrote. he never left out a single detail. it's almost like magic the way this man could easily blend the characters together with an enticing plot-line and a hidden world far beyond our imagination to vividly describe the characters,locations sights and smells of Red wall. Some describe Red wall as an escape from the real world, where we can let go of reality and go somewhere where we can be free and not have to think or listen to anyone else. others, say it's an inspiration for stories that they may choose to create for themselves.Even though, every one has a different opinion about Red-wall, it doesn't stop them from unleashing their creativity and imagination upon the world. So, I invite you to spend time with me and take a trip to Redwall abbey where their doors are always open.
So whats the point? Play Redwall?
i don't understand your question. I was merely discussing how Jacques vivid description of the novel is so clear that I can almost see it in my head.
oh ok. I thought you were opening an RP like topic.
Heck yeah, his descriptions are so awesome
I think that he told a Redwall story to some blind children, which is why it's so descriptive. Besides, Brian Jacques was just talented. ;)
How do we know it's not real?
So..... you believe redwall abbey exists?
I think it does, in my imagination
Kool. Me to ;D
Quote from: mattimouse20 on July 18, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
So..... you believe redwall abbey exists?
Yes, somewhere.
Somewhere hidden that won't be found for a long time.
fact. while there may or may not be an ACTUAL redwall abbey, there are others such as, the westminster abbey in England, that still exist to this day!perhaps it's these very places that Brian found the inspiration for the location of redwall?
I belive
Whenever I hear the line "Adresses to places like Abbey Road" from the song The Good Life-OneRepublic, I automatically think of Redwall Abbey
yeah honestly i imagine redwall
A person, but only one, I know (they still didn't like the book) read the book and said Redwall Abbey would be small, like 3 yards all around each wall. But I was just like, no. No, no ,no. It's WAY bigger then that. If you imagine the size of a badger think of how big Redwall would have to be to fit them in. And yes Redwall does feel like it's real sometimes. Just because I want it to be real, doesn't mean you couldn't built one and put a bunch of mice and animals in it.
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Quote from: mattimouse20 on July 18, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
So..... you believe redwall abbey exists?
Yes, somewhere.
What do you mean by "somewhere"? You mean, you belive that somwhere "out there", Redwall Abbey exists?
I can see redwall easy if I consentrat hard I see it perfectly ::) (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyKpnUjyyr1ATtpTe-nVEGKfNIzVpGgk9yiENaJHKer0DrGFht)
These walls in Stanley park, liverpool, England, were what inspired Redwall Abbey
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Stanley_Park,_Liverpool_(12).JPG)
Here is the video were he talks about it.
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on March 30, 2013, 05:11:18 PM
These walls in Stanley park, liverpool, England, were what inspired Redwall Abbey
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Stanley_Park,_Liverpool_(12).JPG)
Here is the video were he talks about it.
That video is great!
Yes I watched it so many times!!
Quote from: Tam and Martin on March 30, 2013, 06:14:03 PM
Yes I watched it so many times!!
You think it's that obsessing ;)?
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Quote from: mattimouse20 on July 18, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
So..... you believe redwall abbey exists?
Yes, somewhere.
What do you mean by "somewhere"? You mean, you belive that somwhere "out there", Redwall Abbey exists?
Basically, yes. I don't know where, but it feels too real
not to be there somewhere.
Also, what proof do we have that it
doesn't exist?
After I finished reading Mossflower, I had a dream about everything that had happened in it. It's fun to picture those moments in my head.
Yeah, I like it a lot. That is why a Redwall game would be great, because then you could actually go there!
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Quote from: mattimouse20 on July 18, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
So..... you believe redwall abbey exists?
Yes, somewhere.
What do you mean by "somewhere"? You mean, you belive that somwhere "out there", Redwall Abbey exists?
Basically, yes. I don't know where, but it feels too real not to be there somewhere.
Also, what proof do we have that it doesn't exist?
Is onlt common sence that tells us it dosn't exist. But if it does exist, how did BJ find out about it?
The same way you know it exists!
Quote from: Shadowed One on April 25, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Yeah, I like it a lot. That is why a Redwall game would be great, because then you could actually go there!
Agreed :)
Quote from: Shadowed One on April 25, 2013, 09:36:52 PM
The same way you know it exists!
But then why didn't anybody else figure out its existence before him??
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The same way you know it exists!
But then why didn't anybody else figure out its existence before him??
Maybe no one looked hard enough.
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The same way you know it exists!
But then why didn't anybody else figure out its existence before him??
Maybe no one looked hard enough.
Yes, BJ was a great man, probubly the reason about how he found Redwall Abbey. Do you think he ever visited that world?
I hope so, because if he could, we could!
I think in theory it does exist in an alternate dimension, anything and everything does.
I think it would be cool if a replica of the abbey was made that people could actually visit.
Yes and it had everything in redwall and they would get a tour and...there's so many other things!
I think i know what is meant here. Often times, despite knowing Redwall if fictional, i expect to be able to find it. Like i could actually journey to mossflower and visit....It a wonderful the Jacques could create a world that could do that.
A real-life Redwall series theme park with a real Redwall building where they offer you Redwall-caliber feasts is something I've dreamed of for a long time.
Also, a Salamandastron building would be cool.
If that were a reality, then I would visit whenever I could
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If that were a reality, then I would visit whenever I could
So would I!
I want to be rich and build it, then I could live there!
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I want to be rich and build it, then I could live there!
Yea, but it just wouldn't be the same if it wasn't in the World of Redwall Abbey :-\
Quote from: WildDoogyPlumm on July 18, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
How do we know it's not real?
Exactly! Sometimes when I'm feeling weirder than usual, I wonder about some really strange stuff. Like, are events in books really real in some other plane of existence/dimension? Are authors just aware somehow of these events and that's how they get their "story ideas"? Or do these things happen because they wrote them? What about us? Are we just characters in some book? Is some author "out there" aware of our stories or is the author "writing" us?
That sounds a bit like Tolkien! He said that when you write, you create that world, or something like that. Not in reallity, though. :-\
Redwall Abbey feels very real to me. Brian Jacques was such an amazing, masterful storyteller. He was just so very gifted and his imagery is so precise and outta this world, you really can close your eyes and picture all the details perfectly. He was a genious, and I love his works...including Castaways of the Flying Duchman series; wow, it's awesome.
I find myself seeing little creatures out and about in my daily life and I think to myself, "oh look! there goes Triss!", or "OMGosh, there is a mouse in the garage, could it be Martin?" etc.
SO much fun, Brian's gift to us! Redwall Abbey seems very real to me. I often wish there would be a really cool Redwall boardgame, with little character pieces you get to move around the board, and flip cards and such.
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Quote from: WildDoogyPlumm on July 18, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
How do we know it's not real?
Exactly! Sometimes when I'm feeling weirder than usual, I wonder about some really strange stuff. Like, are events in books really real in some other plane of existence/dimension? Are authors just aware somehow of these events and that's how they get their "story ideas"? Or do these things happen because they wrote them? What about us? Are we just characters in some book? Is some author "out there" aware of our stories or is the author "writing" us?
Quote from: PluggFiretail on May 13, 2013, 02:02:32 AM
That sounds a bit like Tolkien! He said that when you write, you create that world, or something like that. Not in reallity, though. :-\
Sounds even more like Inkheart!
I suppose, in an infinite multi-verse (uni-verse is so passe), all things are not only possible, but must be - somewhere, at some point in time, everything imaginable will happen, maybe more than once. Like right now, there's a duplicate me, that is typing this post, but will now say something different. Like . . . anyway, you get the point. So, it's not beyond reason to think that somewhere out there, at some time in history, there is or was, a place called redwall abbey with talking animals. Unfortunately, for the foreseeable future, we may be stuck on our little speck of dust like the whos in whoville. Just my two cents. :P
LOL, now we mention Dr. Suess! Who's next? ;D
Quote from: PluggFiretail on May 13, 2013, 06:03:00 PM
LOL, now we mention Dr. Suess! Who's next? ;D
Robert Jordan!!! Because, in the Wheel of Time series,
Quote from: BloodGullet on May 13, 2013, 04:18:13 AM
I suppose, in an infinite multi-verse (uni-verse is so passe), all things are not only possible, but must be - somewhere, at some point in time, everything imaginable will happen, maybe more than once. Like right now, there's a duplicate me, that is typing this post, but will now say something different. Like . . . anyway, you get the point. So, it's not beyond reason to think that somewhere out there, at some time in history, there is or was, a place called redwall abbey with talking animals.
you can travel between these and meet yourself in a slightly different situation.
Quote from: BloodGullet on May 13, 2013, 04:18:13 AMSo, it's not beyond reason to think that somewhere out there, at some time in history, there is or was, a place called redwall abbey with talking animals.
Or
will be a place called Redwall Abbey with talking animals. Don't forget about the future ;) Of course, there might not actually be such thing as time, but that is another topic altogether...
PluggFiretail mentioned that the concept sounds like Tolkien. I agree completely. The Lord of the Rings and Redwall don't share the exact same plot, but I can see a lot of similarities between the two. Especially in the areas of the songs, friendship, and food. Also, both have a wide variety of different aged characters, young, middle aged, etc.
There are some similarities in that they name some of their weapons.
What? ???
In lotz o' placez zey name zeir veoponz, actually.
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on July 02, 2013, 05:28:35 PM
In lotz o' placez zey name zeir veoponz, actually.
Yep they do!
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there. That's my opinion :)
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
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Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
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Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I read a fantasy author who actually had it as part of his book that his stories took place in a parallel dimension to Earth where physics were altered so magic could exist.
Then again, he also sent his villains (a militant religious order) there at the end of the series and took away their magic, their ability to live on and have an afterlife & their memories of where they came from. They went on to invent & spread Christianity...
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I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
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Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
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I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
*claps hands* Bravo bravo
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I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
Amen!
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Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
Amen!
Agreed.
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Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on July 03, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
Amen!
Agreed.
I loved that and I agree full-heartedly.
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I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
Amen!
Agreed.
I loved that and I agree full-heartedly.
Hardly anything can be considered better than imagination. Without imagination, there wouldn't be any Redwall books.
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I think that Redwall does exist. But not in the real world. I believe that there is another world that can only be reached by imagination. All of those great stories, from Cinderella to Redwall, actually did happen. BJ visited the world of Redwall by imagination, and he wrote about them, which in turn we read about. I think that every "Fictional" story that is written or told has happened in another world. Anybody could visit that world, but you need imagination to go there.
That was so poetic and beautiful :'( :-*
Its what I believe :)
Me taae! Imagination iz vonderful!
I know! Its one thing I never want to let go of!
I will never let imagination leave my mind.
Amen!
Agreed.
I loved that and I agree full-heartedly.
Hardly anything can be considered better than imagination. Without imagination, there wouldn't be any Redwall books.
If ye really zink aboot it, aw o' ze ztuff zat ve ken an' perceive come originally from our zenzory organz an' etc.. Ze lightz get put tae ziz, ze zoundz tae zat, ze touch an' tazte tae zeze an' zoze...anyvay, it goez from our zenzory organz an' etc. tae our mind, vhere everyzin' iz put togezer an' zuz ve 'ave aw o' zeze zenzationz an' ztuff zat our mind 'az tae gae viz an' uze tae zort oot aw o' ziz information. After ve've zorted it aw oot, ve progrezz tae uzin' it tae explore an' learn, zuch az valkin', talkin', zeein', feelin', taztin', an' etc.. Zince our imagination iz a part o' our mind, it playz a major role in our entire livez. Vot iz be'ind ze door? Vhy iz ze door zolid, but ze rain can be moved zrough? Granted zat zome o' zeze queztionz appear tae be eazily anzvered, but zat'z only becauze ve imagined up aw o' zeze anzerz bazed on previouz evidence an' etc., zerefore our imaginationz ztill play a large roll in our livez. In ozer vordz, vizoot imagination, very little vould exizt.
QuoteIf ye really zink aboot it, aw o' ze ztuff zat ve ken an' perceive come originally from our zenzory organz an' etc.. Ze lightz get put tae ziz, ze zoundz tae zat, ze touch an' tazte tae zeze an' zoze...anyvay, it goez from our zenzory organz an' etc. tae our mind, vhere everyzin' iz put togezer an' zuz ve 'ave aw o' zeze zenzationz an' ztuff zat our mind 'az tae gae viz an' uze tae zort oot aw o' ziz information. After ve've zorted it aw oot, ve progrezz tae uzin' it tae explore an' learn, zuch az valkin', talkin', zeein', feelin', taztin', an' etc.. Zince our imagination iz a part o' our mind, it playz a major role in our entire livez. Vot iz be'ind ze door? Vhy iz ze door zolid, but ze rain can be moved zrough? Granted zat zome o' zeze queztionz appear tae be eazily anzvered, but zat'z only becauze ve imagined up aw o' zeze anzerz bazed on previouz evidence an' etc., zerefore our imaginationz ztill play a large roll in our livez. In ozer vordz, vizoot imagination, very little vould exizt.
very true :P