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Mafia IV.
Previous round. (http://redwallabbey.com/forum/index.php?topic=8218.0)
Roles:
Quote from: Rainshadow on June 08, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Mafia is a game that is all about discovering who the murderers - the Mafia - are. This game is played in two different settings: Day and night. During the night portion of the game, the players with certain roles (listed below) are to use their special abilities to either murder someone, heal someone, or attempt to discover who the Mafia are. During the day portion of the game, the living characters determine amongst themselves who the Mafia might be, and together they kill one player. This cycle continues until either the Mafia are dead or there are an equal or greater amount of Mafia than there are non-Mafia.
There are many different ways to play Mafia, with many different roles to play. For this round, I will be selecting five playable roles:
Citizen: They have no special abilities, and thus do nothing at night, but they can still vote for who to kill during the day.
Mafia (The Order of the Black Sword): They are able to assassinate one player every night by (if there is only one Mafia) PMing the name of their victim to the Narrator (Jetthebinturong). If there are more than one Mafia, then the whole group must come to a collective decision via PM before messaging the Narrator. During the day, the Mafia may vote for who to kill along with the other players.
Healer: They are able to heal one player (including themselves) every night, meaning that if the Mafia kills someone on the same night that the Medic heals them, the victim doesn't die. They heal a player by PMing their target's name to the Narrator. During the day, the Medic may vote for who to kill like all the other players.
Detective (The Captain of the Guard): They are able to investigate one player every night, PMing the name of the player they're investigating to the Narrator. The Narrator then will tell them if that player is Mafia or not. During the day, the Detective my vote for who to kill along with all other players.
Cupid: The Cupid has a one-use only ability, which is to be used during the first night session. Their power is the ability to make two players unknowingly "fall in love", meaning that if one dies, the other does as well. The Cupid PMs their choice of two players to the Narrator. The Cupid, just like all other players, can vote for who to kill during the day session.
Things to note:
1. This will NOT be a silent round. People's roles will be revealed upon death.
2. Post your vote in
bold.3. You may change your vote. There is no limit to the number of times you can do so.
4. There will be clues in the story.
5. On night one the Mafia will kill an NPC that I have chosen, NOT a player. This is to give everyone a chance to play the game.
I'm going to cap the number of players at fifteen, so sign up.
PLAYERS:Soren the Warrior.
Sam the Silent.
Skyblade the Wise.
Gonff the Insightful.
Cornflower the Energetic.
Sagetip the Hare.
Eul the Hawk-eyed. (Geddit?)
Rachel the Explorer. (This ones a bit harder, but you should be able to work it out.)
Sandpaw the Sandy-pawed. (I'm so creative.)
Rocktree the Rocky-treed. (
So. Creative.)
Perifaen the Sister of Trolls.
Rainshadow the Artist.
I look forward to writing about your demise.
SIGN-UPS ARE CLOSED
I'll join.
This is exactly how I personally like the game to be setup, minus the clues. I'm in.
A few questions:
Will you choose the roles, or will they be randomized?
How many Mafia?
I would like to play!
Quote from: Skyblade on October 18, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
This is exactly how I personally like the game to be setup, minus the clues. I'm in.
A few questions:
Will you choose the roles, or will they be randomized?
They'll be randomised.
How many Mafia?
Depends on the number of players.
Quote from: SilentSam on October 18, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
I would like to play!
Okay cool.
Quote from: Soren the Warrior on October 18, 2015, 04:45:02 PM
I'll join.
Cool.
I'll update the first post with players. I might also change the names of the roles, just to make things interesting.
Sounds good.
I'll join this one as well!
Cool.
I'm in!
Cool.
Thank you for the title! :)
You're welcome.
The Energetic, hmm? Thnaks - I liek it. :)
My title is a new one! Thanks Jett!
I'll join.
(http://gif.co/slZz.gif)
Hmm. I shall have to think of a title for you.
I'll join
Cool.
When are the sign-ups closed and roles sent out?
I don't know, probably once we get two more players. If we don't, I'll axe the "cupid" role.
Is this going to have some kind of theme?
Aye, but you'll have to wait and see.
Oooh, a mystery theme. Cool!
Is it too late to join? Cus I wouldn't mind giving this a go.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 18, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
Aye, but you'll have to wait and see.
I'm betting medieval. (Order of the Black Sword; Captian of the Guard)
Quote from: rachel25 on October 18, 2015, 08:48:48 PM
Is it too late to join? Cus I wouldn't mind giving this a go.
Definitely not too late. More people would be vastly preferable.
Yay!
Added you to the list.
Yay but I don't understand. Why Explorer?
Adventure to Gadna.
After a few minutes of consideration I decided to join this round, Jet ought to be a good narrator.
Can I join? Ill try to be as active as possible. :P
Awesome. I think that's about as many as we need, but I'll leave sign-ups open until Tuesday.
Do you think I could try this round?
Sure.
Oh, gosh, good thing I decided to check the games section. If I hadn't, I'd've probably missed this! Sign me up, Jet-kun!
Cool beans.
On second thoughts we have enough people and I'm closing sign-ups now. I'll get you your roles then start working on the introductory post. Remember, no one has a night action for night one, as it's just setting up the game.
This is going to be fun! It's been a while since I was actually part of a game that didn't last a week. :P
Got mine :)
I'm truly glad we're starting the game in the Day Phase. That way, everyone has a chance to participate :) (And not die in Night 1, which is a bummer).
I see we have 12 people playing this time; that's a lot. @Jet: How many Mafia are there?
Two mafia.
I'll get on writing the first post asap.
Take your time.
10 Town VS 2 Mafia. Gotcha.
It may seem easy, Town, with so many of us against only 2 Mafia. But I'll warn you. I've seen a handful of games on the Mafia forum. Mafia are tricky people, and they actually pull off a good number of victories. So we really can't let our guard down; we've gotta do our best until the very end.
I'm so excited to play Mafia again! One of my IRL friends said I am obsessed with this game. She is right ;D
Being obsessed with things from time to time is healthy. :P
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 20, 2015, 01:01:11 AM
Being obsessed with things from time to time is healthy. :P
Like being obsessed with getting a good grade.
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 20, 2015, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 20, 2015, 01:01:11 AM
Being obsessed with things from time to time is healthy. :P
Like being obsessed with getting a good grade.
Hey, interesting perspectives, you guys :)
Though you could be Mafia :P My friends (and enemies), paranoia is a good thing to have in this game.
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 20, 2015, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 20, 2015, 01:01:11 AM
Being obsessed with things from time to time is healthy. :P
Like being obsessed with getting a good grade.
True. Or book/s. Or movies. Or characters. Or whatever.
*plays Xbox innocently, the clock strangely speeding aheat really fast*
What I'm interested in seeing is y'all's playing styles. I have a good basis as to how most of you work and play, so if something like that changes it may be a clue.
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 20, 2015, 01:09:29 AM
*plays Xbox innocently, the clock strangely speeding aheat really fast*
I wonder what this means.
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 20, 2015, 01:10:36 AM
What I'm interested in seeing is y'all's playing styles. I have a good basis as to how most of you work and play, so if something like that changes it may be a clue.
That's a really cool strategy, Gonffy! I hope it works for you. :)
Quote from: Skyblade on October 20, 2015, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 20, 2015, 01:09:29 AM
*plays Xbox innocently, the clock strangely speeding aheat really fast*
I wonder what this means.
It is odd, isn't it?
I don't care too much for the pre-game banter, let's get going.
Can I still join? Been not active for a week and this happens. :P
'Fraid not. The first page says sign-ups are closed.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 20, 2015, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 20, 2015, 01:09:29 AM
*plays Xbox innocently, the clock strangely speeding aheat really fast*
I wonder what this means.
*smackface* You really like to take EVERYTHING as a clue, don't you?
Anyway, I plan to actally participate in this game, unlike last time... 0.o
IMO, everything can be used for investigative purposes. Including pre-game activity.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 20, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
...everything can be used for investigative purposes.
It
can be; that doesn't mean that it
should. ;)
Quote from: Skyblade on October 20, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
IMO, everything can be used for investigative purposes. Including pre-game activity.
What does IMO mean anyway?
I discern where necessary :P
I doubted Sage, if he was Mafia, would slip up in his first post. My question was asked more for the purpose of reaction-testing, since Mafia reply differently from Town. I can see Sage's ardent reply as from either indignant Townie or a defensive Mafia. Adds another tidbit to look at during the investigation.
Of course, some clues can't be taken as heavily as others. The real scumhunting starts when the game begins.
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 20, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: Skyblade on October 20, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
IMO, everything can be used for investigative purposes. Including pre-game activity.
What does IMO mean anyway?
In my opinion
IMO you need to add a period to that last sentence.
I've never played this before but I'm really excited to. I guess I'll just have to pick it up as I go along.
ROUND 1 - NIGHT.
The Ionas castle stood on a rocky crag overlooking the great north sea. It was built of a black stone shot through with lines of grey and white. The main keep was enclosed in a hexagonal wall with high guard towers at each corner. The keep itself was an enormous pentagonal shape, with a straight wall facing the main gate, two more straight walls branching back from that point and two more walls which tapered to a point at the back of the keep. A spired tower stood at each corner. It was a daunting structure, but The Order of the Black Sword had encountered worse.
The Order of the Black Sword were an assassin's guild which had stood as long as anyone could remember. They were willing to do anything, providing you had the coin to pay them. The Order had dispatched two of their best operatives to the Castle to deal with their target. The one they called Kuki boosted their compatriot, Suna, into the open window of the cat King Velf Ionas. The king lay in his bed, sleeping blissfully. Suna pulled Kuki up into the room with them went over to block the door. Kuki drew their black blade, and stepped softly towards the bed. Kuki thrust the sword through Velf's throat and with a gasping of breath, the king died. Kuki and Suna allowed themselves a private moment of victory, then slipped out of the window again, leaving the sword behind.
The next morning, Prince Jet arrived back at the Castle, having heard the news of his father's death. The Prince vowed revenge upon those who had killed his father. According to a reliable informant, on the night of King Velf's murder, only twelve inhabitants of the Castle had been unaccounted for. There were Gonff the mouse and Skyblade, the badger, Castle recorders. One of the mouse knights known as Soren. A travelling squirrel entertainer who'd been staying at the Castle called Sam. The leader of the court's dancers Cornflower, the squirrel. The hares Sagetip and Sandpaw. Eulalia the hawk. The foreign ambassador otter, Rachel. The otter captain Rocktree. The (mouse?) Perifaen. And the cat artist, Rainshadow. Clearly the killer had to be one of them.
Prince Jet called the group to the main hall. Without wasting time, he shouted, "My father was killed by one of you!" He allowed the words to sink in. "You are all to be held accountable for your absence. This section of the Castle will be sealed off from all of the others. Every day you will vote which among you goes to the afterlife. Choose carefully, because I've no doubt that The Order of the Black Sword are willing to kill you all to escape." With that he left, and the doors swung closed behind him. They were locked soon afterwards. "Your first victim will be today. Hurry up and decide."
ROUND 1 DAY HAS BEGUN.
Hmmm. . . . . . Tricky. Very nicely written story, by the way, Jet.
Well, the two assassins came through a window - could that mean they're squirrels? Or a cat. Cats climb. That's something to keep in mind. . . . Or this part:
QuoteKuki and Suna allowed themselves a private moment of victory
Could that be a clue? Hmm.
And I notice that you pair Sand and Sage. Hmm. This could be argued that they are both hares - But Sam and I are squirrels - Entertainers both, no less - but we're not paired as Sand and Sage are. Hmm.
If we're pairing people by their roles in the story, then Gonff and Sky are the obvious choices, as they are both recorders. You could also pair Sam and Rachel, as neither are regularly at the castle. Rachel and Rock could both be paired as they're both otters.
Anyway, I think the clues are to be found in the story, not the list of players.
Which species could scale a wall like that? We know definitely a squirrel. A hawk can't really give anybody a "boost", they can give them a lift though. And a hawk wouldn't need a boost.
Badgers can't climb really, I dunno. A Eul/Sky match up would be a daunting Mafia pair, but they don't really fit the story.
The names of the assassins sound feminine, so maybe we're looking for two girls.
I'm saying nothing. But I was about to point out to Corn that I'd also paired up Gonff and Sky yet neither were the same species. All we know about Kuki and Suna is that they climbed in through a window, it didn't say how they got there.
I wasn't pairing people up, I was just pointing out that it specifically says 'The hares Sagetip and Sandpaw.' I'd forgotten and Gonff and Sky. :P Whoops. But other than those two, everyone else has their own sentences. . . . And Sky and Gonff's is a bit more descriptive than just 'The hares.'
But those are good thoughts, though.
Good story Jet, I can see a few possible "clues" But nothing that directly points to any one group. I would like to point out that the assassins are most likely new to the castle so Cornflower, Sky, and Gonff might not be mafia because they live at the castle they are recorders and dancers and such.
So I'm not saying its set in stone but since the assassins were "sent" to the castle and that they hadn't been living in the castle, which means those three might be less suspicious then the others.
What do you guys think?
. . . . . . Very possible.
Well, it's compatriot Suna, which narrows down at least one of the Mafia to a female.
...How?
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 20, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
I'm saying nothing. But I was about to point out to Corn that I'd also paired up Gonff and Sky yet neither were the same species. All we know about Kuki and Suna is that they climbed in through a window, it didn't say how they got there.
Well, maybe the hawk aspect is back on the table.
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 20, 2015, 08:57:40 PM
Good story Jet, I can see a few possible "clues" But nothing that directly points to any one group. I would like to point out that the assassins are most likely new to the castle so Cornflower, Sky, and Gonff might not be mafia because they live at the castle they are recorders and dancers and such.
So I'm not saying its set in stone but since the assassins were "sent" to the castle and that they hadn't been living in the castle, which means those three might be less suspicious then the others.
What do you guys think?
That's a good point, it might be the foreigners, Sam and Rachel.
Good story for a start, Jett.
Okay, so the killers knew exactly which room was the King's so that could suggest that they are resident and have been planning the murder for a while. So that could be Gnoff, Sky, Soren, Corn, I'm not sure who else is definitely a permanent resident. It doesn't appear to be a very high up window so it wouldn't necessarily have to be a squirrel. But neither of them could be very big because the first one is boosted up and the other pulled up. So probably not Sky as she's a badger. And a hawk wouldn't need help of either kind.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 20, 2015, 09:09:39 PM
...How?
Oh. I was being stupid as always and making compatriot masculine. IT'S SPANISH' FAULT!!!
Is there anyone on the forum that really likes cookies?
(I'll post my thoughts in a bit).
If Eul were to do it how would she hold the sword? Just wondering.
Quote from: Perifæn on October 21, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
If Eul were to do it how would she hold the sword? Just wondering.
Her talons. Trust me, bird feet are a lot more flexible than you might think. ;)
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 21, 2015, 12:20:38 AM
Is there anyone on the forum that really likes cookies?
(I'll post my thoughts in a bit).
That was random. Yes, I do.
Mmph, this is hard. I see good arguments from both sides, and I just. . . . Gah.
I have a lot to say already and do plan to post. Please give me just a bit of time. I'm tired from procrastination and emotionally unwell.
The sad thing about that post? I used procrastination as an excuse to procrastinate.
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 21, 2015, 02:16:58 AM
Quote from: Perifæn on October 21, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
If Eul were to do it how would she hold the sword? Just wondering.
Her talons. Trust me, bird feet are a lot more flexible than you might think. ;)
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 21, 2015, 12:20:38 AM
Is there anyone on the forum that really likes cookies?
(I'll post my thoughts in a bit).
That was random. Yes, I do.
Mmph, this is hard. I see good arguments from both sides, and I just. . . . Gah.
My talons? How would I walk and hold a sword in my talons at the same time? Flapping my wings would probably make enough noise to wake someone up....
Anyhow, I'm thinking it may be Sand and Sage. They were paired together, and one of the Mafia was given a boost through the window. I'm pretty sure hares aren't really supposed to be champion climbers. They are tall, but that doesn't mean they could reach the window.
We would just use our long legs to jump up.
Once again I highly doubt that Sky is one of the killers. Amongst things it would take a lot of stealth and light footedness (now a word) to get into the room and cross it silently.
I'm just musing now but the murder weapon was described as a blade so probably a sword. And in redwall the animals who use swords the most are mice. So that once again suggests, Soren.
Rocktree is the captain so he would probably know the lay out of the castle but the scribes would also know it pretty well.
The murder weapon is indeed a sword. They are called The Order of the Black Sword.
Interesting that no one's voted yet.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 21, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Interesting that no one's voted yet.
That's because there are too many variables to be certain.
Quote from: rachel25 on October 21, 2015, 11:46:46 AM
I'm just musing now but the murder weapon was described as a blade so probably a sword. And in redwall the animals who use swords the most are mice. So that once again suggests, Soren.
...or Gonff, who's also a mouse. But still, swords aren't exclusive to mice. I can think of Rackkity Tam, Boar the Fighter, Lord Brocktree, Dayna and pretty much all the vermin use swords as well.
My two suspects are Rain and Soren. Rain is a cat, abd they are good at climbing, but Soren is a mouse guard who would already have a sword.
Quote from: Soren the Warrior on October 21, 2015, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 21, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Interesting that no one's voted yet.
That's because there are too many variables to be certain.
Quote from: rachel25 on October 21, 2015, 11:46:46 AM
I'm just musing now but the murder weapon was described as a blade so probably a sword. And in redwall the animals who use swords the most are mice. So that once again suggests, Soren.
...or Gonff, who's also a mouse. But still, swords aren't exclusive to mice. I can think of Rackkity Tam, Boar the Fighter, Lord Brocktree, Dayna and pretty much all the vermin use swords as well.
yeah I know other creatures did use swords but mice are the ones who almost always have swords.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 21, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
The murder weapon is indeed a sword. They are called The Order of the Black Sword.
Interesting that no one's voted yet.
I didn't know we were able to vote yet. So we just PM you with a person's name, right?
No, we post it here in bold. Uuuurgh. I don't know.
Okay, I get it now. In that case I've decided to vote for Soren.
That's one vote for Soren.
Remember a majority (so seven) is required to convict.
I agree with Rachel, Soren seems suspicious. I vote Soren.
That's two votes for Soren.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 21, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
The murder weapon is indeed a sword. They are called The Order of the Black Sword.
Interesting that no one's voted yet.
So it was a Stygion Iron sword? *nudge nudge wink wink*
I don't get it.
Stygian iron is a mythical Greek/Roman element that's "black as a nightmare".
Sky is here and she's going hardcore.
I honestly don't think the pairings mean anything. Maybe they do, but IMO it's not likely. Gonff and I were grouped together only because we're both recorders. As for the other pairs, Jet was grouping the ones of the same species. The pairings just come off as logical to me.
That said, I'm not the biggest fan of using clues in the story as evidence for Mafia because they can be misleading. I'll use them if something really bugs me, but tend to analyze posts in my search more.
Utilizing my strategy, my main suspect is Sage. So far, his posts have unsettled me and seemed the most Mafia- motivated out of all the players. He's posting, but I'm wondering if he is "active lurking". That's a term we use on the Mafia forum to describe someone who posts, but the posts don't really help the investigation. Quite a few of them have left me scratching my head, and that's not something Town should do. Town needs to provide clarity. Mafia members are the ones who want to confuse Town; it helps them lynch the wrong people and win. In addition, he sounds pretty defensive of himself IMO, and that is something that always raises my suspicions.
Other Thoughts:
The argument for Søren being Mafia because he's a mouse guard and would have a sword makes sense, but it's not sure enough evidence for me to vote. What's interesting, though, is the fact that he IS a mouse guard. After all, Søren is usually a badger. The fact that he's a mouse in this story is strikingly odd and it might, might (or might not), mean something.
For someone who's doing their first game, Rachel has been doing surprisingly well IMO and more invested than I thought. Hmm.
Rain hasn't posted, and she hasn't been active on the forum so that could be why.
. . . . . . . Would it be bad for me to just go with Skye's vote? Because she has better-sounding points to me than everyone else does, and I honestly have no idea.
Wait, Soren's usually a badger?
Yes.
Whoops.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 22, 2015, 01:09:14 AM
Wait, Soren's usually a badger?
Yes, I had Boar the Fighter as my profile picture for two years. ::)
I'm voting
Rachel, because she started attacking me after I suggested that her and Sam might be together, because in the story they're both foreign. Then Sam votes for me without much explanation, except maybe to go along with his partner.
So thats two for Soren, one for Sage and one for Rachel, correct?
Quote from: Soren the Warrior on October 20, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 20, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
I'm saying nothing. But I was about to point out to Corn that I'd also paired up Gonff and Sky yet neither were the same species. All we know about Kuki and Suna is that they climbed in through a window, it didn't say how they got there.
Well, maybe the hawk aspect is back on the table.Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 20, 2015, 08:57:40 PM
Good story Jet, I can see a few possible "clues" But nothing that directly points to any one group. I would like to point out that the assassins are most likely new to the castle so Cornflower, Sky, and Gonff might not be mafia because they live at the castle they are recorders and dancers and such.
So I'm not saying its set in stone but since the assassins were "sent" to the castle and that they hadn't been living in the castle, which means those three might be less suspicious then the others.
What do you guys think?
That's a good point, it might be the foreigners, Sam and Rachel.
Notice that Soren suspected Sam and Rachel because they were foreigners and then both Sam and Rachel voted for him. I'm not going to point a finger yet but that's pretty blatantly suspicious.
Soren Ninja'd me.
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 22, 2015, 01:00:59 AM
. . . . . . . Would it be bad for me to just go with Skye's vote? Because she has better-sounding points to me than everyone else does, and I honestly have no idea.
??
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 22, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 22, 2015, 01:00:59 AM
. . . . . . . Would it be bad for me to just go with Skye's vote? Because she has better-sounding points to me than everyone else does, and I honestly have no idea.
??
I was hoping somebody else would reply to this, because you were commenting on my own post and I wanted unbiased feedback ;) If you really think Sage is Mafia, go for it. Just don't follow anybody blindly :)
Quote from: Soren the Warrior on October 22, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
I'm voting Rachel, because she started attacking me after I suggested that her and Sam might be together, because in the story they're both foreign. Then Sam votes for me without much explanation, except maybe to go along with his partner.
Woah, really good observation. I didn't catch that ::)
The reason why Rachel is unnerving me more, though, is that this is her first game here yet she comes off as a good Mafia player already. She's also a lot more into this game than I thought, one of the most active people here. Where does confidence come from? Experience, for one. But also, (Learned this from the Mafia forum) if someone is Mafia, they already KNOW who is on which side. So it's easier to fake confidence.
I'm not Mafia! Maybe it's Sky, che's blaming a lot of people.... (lol, not really. Although it would[/b] be a twist if she were Mafia...)
I can certainly see how why Sky thinks Sage is Mafia. My vote for Rachel will stand, but between him and Sam, I'm not certain yet who's the partner.
Mmmm. . . . . . . I'm going with Sage. For this Day, anyway.
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 22, 2015, 01:30:22 AM
I'm not Mafia! Maybe it's Sky, che's blaming a lot of people.... (lol, not really. Although it would[/b] be a twist if she were Mafia...)
Well, anyone can sit at a computer and type the words "I'm not Mafia". In Mafia 2, that's what Mafia Søren said more than once. For some time, I actually fell for it. Never making that mistake again.
And now you're suspecting me after I suspected you first...
I'm satisfied where my vote is.
Hey, so you mean I could have actually said I wasn't Mafia in Mafia II, and. . . . . . Seriously.
I'd just like to point out that while Rachel may seem very into her first game, I was too and I was Medic. And I'm thinking it's either Soren or Sage.
Soren is a mouse guard and would most likely use a sword. He's a guard, meaning he knows how to kill, and mice aren't champion climbers. The weapon used to murder was a sword, and he most likely had one.
Sage's posts definitely haven't been the most helpful. And he's a hare, and I pointed out earlier why that would seem reasonable for a hare to be one of the Mafia. I think it may be Sage more than I think it's Soren, because Soren was already Mafia in the round that just ended. That might not mean anything, but I think it could be helpful.
So... I'm voting Sage. I hope it's right.
You know what? People keep pointing that Soren would have already had a sword. A sword, sure, it would be kinda silly if he didn't have one, but a black sword? Unless everyone totes around black swords, it seems kinda odd to me to be pointing fingers at Sor just because he has a sword. Because if everyone toted around black swords, then the assassins wouldn't be called 'The Order of the Black Sword' because they'd use a different color blade if they wanted to be 'recognized; and if they go so far as to have a guild and a name I would say they want to be recognized.
((Is that confusing?))
I'm just going to say something here:
No, that's exactly right. Soren being a guard and owning a sword isn't grounds to accuse him. C'mon guys, I think you can safely assume that both assassins have swords. Black ones. Except they don't now because they'll have gotten rid of them.
Of course, I'm not saying Soren isn't a member of the Order, but him owning a sword isn't a good reason to accuse him.
So:
Sage is on three votes, Soren two and Rach one, right?
I believe that is the correct vote count.
Quote. I think it may be Sage more than I think it's Soren, because Soren was already Mafia in the round that just ended. That might not mean anything, but I think it could be helpful.
I have to reply to this.
NO. We need to stop thinking like that. Just because Søren was Mafia last game doesn't mean he can't be again.
As Jet said, those roles are randomized. We shouldn't speculate on past games or "who might be chosen for which role" because it's completely unrelated.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 22, 2015, 02:53:55 AM
I'm just going to say something here:
No, that's exactly right. Soren being a guard and owning a sword isn't grounds to accuse him. C'mon guys, I think you can safely assume that both assassins have swords. Black ones. Except they don't now because they'll have gotten rid of them.
But he is a guard, and has experience with a sword.
I googled Kuki and Suna for a long time and only came up with this cheesy drawing of a Cat and Mouse, similar to Redwall in style. That does help my theory of Rain and Soren. However, I will go with
Soren on this one, really by what others have said and a gut feeling I guess.
I didn't vote for Soren simply because he's got a sword. Also, thank you Sky for your complement on how well I'm doing. I am really enjoying the game and can't believe I never knew about it before.
I didn't know Soren had already been a Mafia but as Sky said it's randomised so my vote still stands. Also, I was surprised as everyone else how quickly Sam voted the same as me. I thought it was just because we happened to be on at the same time and with similar views.
Also if we were the Mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to disagree with each other so as to throw you off the sent. Rather than making you actively suspicious of us?
I need to put up a defense. 0.o
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 20, 2015, 07:32:08 PM
ROUND 1 - NIGHT.
The Ionas castle stood on a rocky crag overlooking the great north sea. It was built of a black stone shot through with lines of grey and white. The main keep was enclosed in a hexagonal wall with high guard towers at each corner. The keep itself was an enormous pentagonal shape, with a straight wall facing the main gate, two more straight walls branching back from that point and two more walls which tapered to a point at the back of the keep. A spired tower stood at each corner. It was a daunting structure, but The Order of the Black Sword had encountered worse.
The Order of the Black Sword were an assassin's guild which had stood as long as anyone could remember. They were willing to do anything, providing you had the coin to pay them. The Order had dispatched two of their best operatives to the Castle to deal with their target. The one they called Kuki boosted their compatriot, Suna, into the open window of the cat King Velf Ionas. The king lay in his bed, sleeping blissfully. Suna pulled Kuki up into the room with them went over to block the door. Kuki drew their black blade, and stepped softly towards the bed. Kuki thrust the sword through Velf's throat and with a gasping of breath, the king died. Kuki and Suna allowed themselves a private moment of victory, then slipped out of the window again, leaving the sword behind.
The next morning, Prince Jet arrived back at the Castle, having heard the news of his father's death. The Prince vowed revenge upon those who had killed his father. According to a reliable informant, on the night of King Velf's murder, only twelve inhabitants of the Castle had been unaccounted for. There were Gonff the mouse and Skyblade, the badger, Castle recorders. One of the mouse knights known as Soren. A travelling squirrel entertainer who'd been staying at the Castle called Sam. The leader of the court's dancers Cornflower, the squirrel. The hares Sagetip and Sandpaw. Eulalia the hawk. The foreign ambassador otter, Rachel. The otter captain Rocktree. The (mouse?) Perifaen. And the cat artist, Rainshadow. Clearly the killer had to be one of them.
Prince Jet called the group to the main hall. Without wasting time, he shouted, "My father was killed by one of you!" He allowed the words to sink in. "You are all to be held accountable for your absence. This section of the Castle will be sealed off from all of the others. Every day you will vote which among you goes to the afterlife. Choose carefully, because I've no doubt that The Order of the Black Sword are willing to kill you all to escape." With that he left, and the doors swung closed behind him. They were locked soon afterwards. "Your first victim will be today. Hurry up and decide."
ROUND 1 DAY HAS BEGUN.
First off, Suna went to block the door. Whether xe physically held the door or blocked with an item, they'd need to have some strenght
characteristic of a badger to do that, and if they moved something (ie: a chair) to block the door, than they'd need to pick it up from the floor because dragging it would create a lot of sound, and picking up a chair is a pretty heavy thing, although, since we don't know the dimensions and weight and stuff of the chair or door this entire paragraph is spectulation, but if it's true then it proves that I am not Suna; at least it
might narrow it down. Which, let me remind you, is something the Mafia doesn't want to happen.
*breathes*
Second of all, Jet says "stepped
softly towards the bed." While anybeast can do that, I believe mice are known for quietness of paw. Not hares. Again, speculation, but it might narrow it down.
I vote
Skyblade.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 22, 2015, 03:09:03 AM
Quote. I think it may be Sage more than I think it's Soren, because Soren was already Mafia in the round that just ended. That might not mean anything, but I think it could be helpful.
I have to reply to this.
NO. We need to stop thinking like that. Just because Søren was Mafia last game doesn't mean he can't be again. As Jet said, those roles are randomized. We shouldn't speculate on past games or "who might be chosen for which role" because it's completely unrelated.
I know, I was just wanting to add anything that might be helpful. Like I said, it may or may mot be (and probably isn't). I just thought the chances of him being picked twice weren't very high, but that is no reason to accuse someone, which is one of the reasons why I voted for Sage.
Okay by the looks of it, Sage and Søren have three votes each, and Sky and I one each. Right?
Yes.
A lot of good points being thrown around but nothing that I really incriminating. I still think Rachel and Sam's both turning on Soren like that is really suspicious, which is the only solid evidence, I can see anyway. I'm voting for Rachel
Soren and Sage are on three,
Rachel is on two,
And Sky is on one.
None of them are very close to getting seven votes...
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 22, 2015, 04:45:54 AM
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 22, 2015, 02:53:55 AM
I'm just going to say something here:
No, that's exactly right. Soren being a guard and owning a sword isn't grounds to accuse him. C'mon guys, I think you can safely assume that both assassins have swords. Black ones. Except they don't now because they'll have gotten rid of them.
But he is a guard, and has experience with a sword.
If you don't mind me saying, anyone could have experience with a sword! Anyone! For a multitude of reasons!
Am I the only one thinking that blaming Sor because he has a sword/obviously has experience with a sword is just plain silly?
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 22, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
Soren and Sage are on three,
Rachel is on two,
And Sky is on one.
None of them are very close to getting seven votes...
No, and some people haven't really posted yet. :-\
^^ YEah, like Sam and Rain. And Peri.
Hey, what happens when/if no one gets seven votes? Just go with the one with the most votes?
Sam voted. Cus everyone thinks we're the Mafia. :P
Oh, yeah. Forgot. I don't see why they do, there's not really that much evidence against you. ah, well, we'll see. Eventually.
Uh, maybe a poll with the people who are in the lead for death row and then they have to vote for one of those two.
Sounds good.
Okay.
Sorry, I was trying to get a better view on the story before I voted. I believe Sam to be one of the mafia. As pointed out earlier it says the two were sent and he is a foreigner to the castle, Sam did quickly jump to Soren after being accused without much explanation, and a third point is that if he is an entertainer he would have to be quite agile and would most likely know how to use a sword, useful traits to have as the assassin.
Oh please, ::). . There are many reasons that I could be mafia, but there are also many reasons that other people could be mafia. I admit, I didn't think my original post through. I would like to change my vote to Sage. Skyblade's convinced me.
But... my defense!
Seriously, if I die this round you'll regret it. I'm a townsperson.
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices — to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill — and suspicion can destroy — and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own — for the children — and the children yet unborn."
Very inspiring quote.
I agree. I can't help but wonder why, exactly, it is you only find humans trying to kill each other for something that isn't a prospective mate, food, or territory.
Because of our human emotions that are ability to make those kind of choices. No animal lives like a human does.
So, who are waiting for to vote?
Definitely Rock, possibly Eul. I don't know.
CAN EVERYONE VOTE PLEASE?
I don't think Rain has either. Shall someone PM them?
I did, Mr. Grumpy!
Okay....
I meant voted. :P But I'll go PM.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 23, 2015, 10:48:44 AM
Definitely Rock, possibly Eul. I don't know.
CAN EVERYONE VOTE PLEASE?
Been there, done that
Rock hasn't responded to my PM a few days ago, so I don't really know what's up with him currently.
He's actually online now
Rocktree...
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 23, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Rock hasn't responded to my PM a few days ago, so I don't really know what's up with him currently.
Give him space, he's probably jumping off a cliff or something.
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 24, 2015, 12:56:50 AM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 23, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Rock hasn't responded to my PM a few days ago, so I don't really know what's up with him currently.
Give him space, he's probably jumping off a cliff or something.
Yeah this man has wisdom... I was just jumping off a cliff. :-\
IM HERE, IM BACK Eyyy, Sorry for er.. Not being active. Im not.. Er.. Suspicious at all.. Er...
Just vote. Please. We all wish to continue and can't until everyone votes.
What we could do if Rock no longer wants to play and Rain doesn't post is replace them with other people who volunteer to drop into the game. I'm not trying to be mean or harsh. Replacement is a method used by the Mafia forum that efficiently keeps the game moving and everyone else happy.
Ey, Ill vote. But I dont really want to play. :P
I msged Jet about it. But Jet said I have to stay in.
Then vote.
If someone wants to replace you, feel free to leave. Until then, you're part of the game.
I think the fairest thing to do here is just replace him.
Which will happen if someone volunteers, as I said in my previous comment.
But no one is going to volunteer if they don't know about it. I doubt many people who aren't playing and know that sign ups are closed.
Rrrrr wanted to join, but you told him sign ups were closed. I think he's more activ then Rock, and maybe should be sent a PM. I'll let someone else do that.
I agree with Soren. Jet, may I send Rrrrr a PM?
Sure.
*waits*
I'm sorry I never got to vote. It was my Mom's birthday...
I'm not even following the story line I've been so busy. Should I really vote for a random reason? If so, Who?
Happy birthday to your mom :) And I understand, Rock.
I personally recommend Sage, whose latest posts have made my vote on him more assured rather than less.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 25, 2015, 03:21:30 AM
Happy birthday to your mom :) And I understand, Rock.
I personally recommend Sage, whose latest posts have made my vote on him more assured rather than less.
Haha, Thanks! (And thanks for understanding too)
Okay. Well I guess I'll vote for Sage. From what I've seen Skye tends to be right most of the time.
:)
Well, don't vote for Sage just because I did. He's my personal recommendation if you don't have the time to look through the thread. But if you do, examine the evidence and see where YOU stand :)
Also, thank you if that compliment was genuine (Mafia members lie in these games, so I can't trust anyone). Truthfully, though, I'm not right too often. I've seen quite a few signs that indicate it's Sage, though, and as my leading suspect, I'm wiling to vote him out.
It was fun being a citizen. Y'all better have a good time getting killed, because you just signed your death warrant.
(http://gif.co/qfIt.gif)
You only have five votes. Seven are required to convict.
Wow. That's dramatic.
*sigh*
@Jett We should put the two people with the most votes and make everyone vote for one or the other.
Yeah. So that would be Sage and Soren right?
*Counts* Yep, Sage and Soren.
Okay. This should speed things up.
My vote stays the same. Sage is my leading suspect for various reasons.
- Posts a lot, but few actually contribute to investigation
- Voted for me after I voted for him, using one detail from the story that could easily have been misinterpreted. I believe he wouldn't have even noticed that had I not voted for him, and he was merely searching for an excuse to vote for me and draw suspicion my way.
- Saying you're Town doesn't make you Town
- Last posts (with all the drama he adds) sound like emotional appeal
Also, I am not going to believe anyone who says "I am Town!" without convincing evidence. Because if I were Mafia, I would probably want to scream that I was Town too. And after Soren's Mafia playstyle in Round 2, which I foolishly fell for, I'm going to be a lot more careful with trust.
I'm not trying to be harsh. I get really hardcore with this game because I want to win. So please, no hard feelings if I attack you, I'm normally aggressive and just trying to win.
Anyway, it's not good to focus on just one person because then the Mafia can hide and we don't want that. Other thoughts:
What is the argument on voting Søren again?
Rain hasn't posted at all, but she hasn't been active, either. Probably a null tell (meaning neither Town or Mafia indicative)
Corny being indecisive, which she was the same in a game in which she was Mafia.
After all the drama king-ness? I'm going with Sage. I was leaning for him anyway.
@Skye: Apparently they think Sor's Mafia because he has a sword and would have experience with a sword which sounds like total baloney to me.
I did vote. I'm not blind or stupid, you know.
Well when I commented, you hadn't voted.
Yes I had, I believe. I voted for Sage. When I voted for Sage, there was one vote for Soren and I made the poll even.
I honestly don't like polls, because votes can be used for investigative purposes. But if Jet wants to and it's the most efficient method, ok.
I voted for Sage. Being transparent here. (Transparency helps the Town)
Is that seriously the only reason to vote Søren? It makes some sense, but...I honestly see a lot more going for Sage. Plus, I'm using posts, not the story.
Is there any other reason to vote Søren? Because I'm wondering why two people voted for him. Do they see something I don't?
I want to see your faces if I die.
Yup, that's their entire argument. I dislike this poll, as it forces me to choose someone I initially didn't vote for, but I'll vote for Sage. (Obviously)
Wow, I'm surprised that many people voted for Sage. It seems like they did it just by following me. I mean, nobody else has provided their own reasoning as to why they think it's Sage. (EDIT: Well, Eul did)
I really prefer voting...but I don't want to argue.
So, 3 more voters need to vote.
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 26, 2015, 12:09:04 AM
After all the drama king-ness? I'm going with Sage. I was leaning for him anyway.
@Skye: Apparently they think Sor's Mafia because he has a sword and would have experience with a sword which sounds like total baloney to me.
I didn't vote for Soren simply because he's got a sword. I've already made that clear.
Also, shouldn't me and Sky be on the poll because we had votes against us.
Quote from: SilentSam on October 25, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
*sigh*
@Jett We should put the two people with the most votes and make everyone vote for one or the other.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on October 25, 2015, 10:40:07 PM
Yeah. So that would be Sage and Soren right?
*Counts* Yep, Sage and Soren.
Welp, Sage is dead. I'll get to writing the story as soon as I can. Mafia, Detective and Healer may feel free to send me their night actions now.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 26, 2015, 04:34:32 AM
Wow, I'm surprised that many people voted for Sage. It seems like they did it just by following me. I mean, nobody else has provided their own reasoning as to why they think it's Sage. (EDIT: Well, Eul did)
I really prefer voting...but I don't want to argue.
I had nothing to add on top of what you said. I just wish I could've voted for someone besides either myself or Sage
A majority vote is required to convict. Most people voted, a majority was not reached.
So Sage is dead. Sorry mate, unless you turn out to be Mafia, in which case Yay! ;)
*waits for story so I can say IN YOUR FACE!*
Unless you're still bluffing, but if your not. I never voted for you. :P
Well, then at least not in your face.
*Sighs* Let's just wait and see, okay?
Okay
Skyblade banged on the door. "Hello?" she called, "we've chosen Sagetip!"
Immediately the doors swung open and the guards seized the prisoners, marching them out into the courtyard. Sagetip was dragged onto the execution podium and forced to his knees. No one noticed as one of the crowd slipped away.
"Do you have any last words, Sagetip?" the prince asked.
"Only that you will regret this."
Jet shrugged and waved his hand. Sagetip's head was forced onto the block and the executioner swung his axe.
As Sagetip's head fell into the basket, an arrow thudded into the podium beside the block, there was a scroll tied to it. The prince retrieved the scroll and read aloud. "Sagetip, the hare was innocent. You have helped the Black Sword." Beneath the message was a drawing of the Sword's logo, a black sword stuck in a shield.
The prince nodded at the guards and the prisoners were dragged back to their quarters. "Get it right next time!"
NIGHT 2 HAS BEGUN.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE FORCED ME TO VOTE! I wasn't even going to vote Sage! Dang it.
*sighs*
I knew it wasn't him.
(http://gif.co/qfIr.gif)
*decapitated head raises eyebrow at Sky*
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rXMkGj2Z3iKGs/giphy.gif)
Oops. Well, maybe next time. Sorry, Sagey.
Nicely written story, by the way, Jet.
Now I feel even worse about myself. I'm literally crying right now.
I let you all down. Why do I always fail?
I can't say anything to prove my innocence; I know. You all probably suspect me now, and how can I blame you? This is largely my fault, and my mistake. I'm not going to scream "I am Town" since I know it doesn't help. The best argument I have is that Town players - including very good ones (and I'm not even very good) - are wrong sometimes. More than you think, in fact.
To me, Sage was my strongest suspect and I wanted to see if he was Mafia.
In reality, this isn't as horrible as we're making it seem. And no, I'm not just saying that because I'm the one who started the lynch on Sage. The Town still outnumbers Mafia by a large number. We need to do better on Day 2.
Anyway, this just goes to show that sometimes who you really think is Mafia turned out to be Town, and who you really think is Town turns out to be Mafia. Trust me on this statement.
---
Anyway, I'd like to post some thoughts in case I get killed tonight. I seriously want to win now. Well then again, I always do. Mafia get on my nerves.
Rachel is a top suspect because I agree with Soren's argument on her. Another thing is that it's odd that a new player is doing so well and being so active in the game. It happens, yes. But at the same time, I can't help but be suspicious.
The argument on Søren is ok-ish. I'm null on him, neither Town not Mafia lean.
Other people I suspect are Eul, Corn, Sam, and Rock. Ergh, I hate that we used the poll; I wanted to see who voted for who. But Eul, Corn, Sam, and Rock probably voted for Sage considering that they mentioned it via post.
Obviously the most blame is on me right now. I understand why. But to be honest, I'm more worried that Corn and some others are more likely to be Mafia (especially since I already know I'm Town :P). Thinking about it, they both just followed my vote. What we have to remember is that the Mafia already KNOW who is on which side. So when they vote out an innocent, they need a good reason for doing so (I've played as Mafia once on the Mafia forum, so I know their perspective). Corn, Sam, and Rock even explicitly stated they were voting based on my decision, and Eul seemed to be going along with me. Maybe so they could blame it all on me if they were questioned why they voted for an Innocent. Of course they could...would THEY get any blame? I'm the one who takes it all, for starting the lynch. They can get off cleanly and hide. It's an easy way to vote out an Innocent.
So I am suspicious of those who voted Sage, but at the same time, I know Mafia can stay off voting for innocents and joining the bandwagon SO they don't get suspected.
Also, Corn has been indecisive, a feature more common in Mafia and I've seen in her Mafia play style.
So I would recommend looking into Rachel and Corny tomorrow. Eul, Sam, and Rock as secondary suspects.
...and that was long. I'll just bold the important stuff.
The truth is I'm just enjoying this. That's why I'm so active. Also I don't know why I'm apparently doing so well. Some people just pick stuff up quick I guess.
Since this is my first round I'm not sure what happens next. :P
@Sky: I looked back over my post where I voted for Sage, and I don't see anything that looks like I was just going along with your vote. I found proof that I thought was good enough to make me vote for Sage, and that's why I voted for him. In Mafia, it's not good to just follow the majority or another player that isn't proven innocent.
Also, you didn't let us down. Trust me, it could have been a lot worse (and I'm talking about Mafia II when I say that. It was my choice who died, and I totally messed up and lost the game.)
Sorry for getting in everybody's face like that... I don't get to prove people wrong very often.
Honestly, your defense was one of the most melodramatic in the history of the game on this forum. Going over-the-top like that, and the "voting for the person who voted for me", all scream "Mafia".
@Sky: Tough luck about the killing a townie-thing, but I wouldn't regret it at all. It wasn't your fault anyway; a bunch of other people voted on it too. If somebody looks enough like Mafia to get lynched, that's their problem, not the Town's.
...
Now I feel really guilty.
I voted Sage because I had no choice. :P It was me or you, dude, and neither of us are guilty.
@Sky
It's no big deal, we got it wrong. I did suspect Sage as well, but I suspected Rachel more. And the blame doesn't have to be on you, it doesn't have to be on anyone. Except the Mafia.
Now we just have to wait.
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 28, 2015, 02:15:29 PM
...
Now I feel really guilty.
I'm sorry; I shouldn't have been so mean. I got myself riled up, and I ought've thought it through more.
I wouldn't have voted for either of them, I'm still thinking its Rachel and Sam for how they turned on Soren so fast. BTW That Sucks Sage, it was a really hard choice.
Well don't lynch me unless you're absolutely certain, or my ghost will come back and haunt you because I am town. I'm not lying, I'm not trying to trick you. I am town. If you are Mafia then the weakest defence possible is saying your town. But I am town because that's what I am.
I am now suspecting Sky. The way she did the whole, It's my fault. I'm such a bad person. I'll probably get killed tonight and I deserve it. But here's a list of people you should go after not me. it just makes me suspicious. But unfortunately it doesn't fit in with the story in my mind. Also, I went and Googled the names, Kuki and Suna, and all I found was an odd drawing of a mouse and cat. That would suggest Søren or Gonff and Rain. But she hasn't posted yet.
Quote from: rachel25 on October 28, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
Well don't lynch me unless you're absolutely certain, or my ghost will come back and haunt you because I am town. I'm not lying, I'm not trying to trick you. I am town. If you are Mafia then the weakest defence possible is saying your town. But I am town because that's what I am.
I am now suspecting Sky. The way she did the whole, It's my fault. I'm such a bad person. I'll probably get killed tonight and I deserve it. But here's a list of people you should go after not me. it just makes me suspicious. But unfortunately it doesn't fit in with the story in my mind. Also, I went and Googled the names, Kuki and Suna, and all I found was an odd drawing of a mouse and cat. That would suggest Søren or Gonff and Rain. But she hasn't posted yet.
Well, Sky is kinda experienced in getting killed before she could talk. (See:
Soren kills Sky; Mafia II)
When I Googled Kuki Suna, all I got was a picture of a kid wearing a tiger hat, and a picture of a cup.
I found this.
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/charaseal/images/a/aa/Kuki_and_Suna.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/480?cb=20140812165401)
I did too, but it looks more like two cats.
That looks kinda freaky.
Quote from: James Gryphon on October 28, 2015, 03:03:21 PM
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on October 28, 2015, 02:15:29 PM
...
Now I feel really guilty.
I'm sorry; I shouldn't have been so mean. I got myself riled up, and I ought've thought it through more.
No, it's my fault. You're completely right. I'm not blaming you.
@Sky: You say Trust me on this, and Sage said the same thing, but you didn't want to believe it. Now I know you have better proof, but what makes him and you so different?
*waits*
Skye, I didn't vote Sage JUST BECAUSE you did. I wish you'd stop saying that. I looked over posts, was indecisive though leaning towards two people, and I
said that what you posted on Sage made sense to me, so I went for him. Not just because you were voting for him. I had my own reasons too, and you can be greatly persuasive. It appears you're not aware of that talent.
Quote from: rachel25 on October 28, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
The way she did the whole, It's my fault. I'm such a bad person. I'll probably get killed tonight and I deserve it. But here's a list of people you should go after not me. it just makes me suspicious.
That's the way she plays. It's also her mood at the moment.
Sorry. I didn't mean it in a mean way at all. Its hard cus you can't hear how I'd say it. :-\
Soooooo, should we say Rock's character never existed, or shall I devise a creative death for him, because R5 hasn't been on.
R has been on, just not replying to my PM.
I suppose it is fair to kill Rock off. How about a creative story? It doesn't make sense to say he never existed.
(I hope he turns out to be Mafia)
I agree with Sky.
Yeah, that seems the best way to me.
I know I'm becoming numb when I start to not care about Mafia.
Anyway, I was not in a good mood when I posted that long thing, like Corn pointed out. Also, I posted suspects because like Soren said, I tend to get killed at Night for my experience and I want to help the Town as much as possible.
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 28, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
@Sky: You say Trust me on this, and Sage said the same thing, but you didn't want to believe it. Now I know you have better proof, but what makes him and you so different?
I meant trust me on that one statement. I got it from the Mafia forum. I like to give the Town advice as we play the game since I am pretty experienced compared to most here. It's up to you whether to take it.
Still leaning Rachel and Corn. Unnerved by the lurkers such as Peri and Rain. They could be Mafia for all we know, but since they haven't been posting as much (Rain hasn't posted once, as she hasn't been active, which isn't her fault but just making a point here), we can never tell. It unnerves me. I'm null on them, since few posts do sometimes mean Mafia but may not mean Mafia and they haven't been suspicious yet. I just get bothered when people don't post as much as I want ;D I'm null, leaning slightly Town, on Soren, Sand, and Gonff. Nothing too suspicious from them yet. Leaning Mafia on Sam, Eul, and Rock just slightly.
The doors to the hall swung open and the guards pounded their spears on the floor, rousing all of the prisoners from their chambers.
When they were all assembled in the hall, the prince stepped forward. "Earlier tonight, an escape attempt was made by one of your number. We found Rocktree dashed upon the stones beneath his tower with a snapped rope near his paw. Clearly he thought he could escape justice. Unfortunately, we found upon him no incriminating evidence. It seems that he was INNOCENT. I just thought you'd like to know that. You can go back to your beds now."
He swept out, the guards followed, locking the doors behind them.
Mafia and Healer have not messaged me with their night action yet.
Well, transparency helps the Town so I will say: I messed up. Again. I tried to do something good. I thought it was the inevitable action for someone who didn't want to play and wasn't getting replaced, and Jet was probably going to do it anyway. I thought he might be Mafia.
There's something I forgot to mention earlier. I've noticed something. Søren suspected Rachel; she suspected him back. I suspected Rachel; she suspected me back. She's been suspecting the people who suspected her first. I does seem like she backed off me, but I can't be sure if she has and what her motives to her posts are.
@Jet: In the Mafia forum, we have a time limit for Night actions to keep the game moving. Can we set a time limit?
We better catch one of the Mafia tomorrow. We're gonna have to be careful with who we vote.
I'm thinking the Mafia is going to be someone who isn't very active, as they still haven't notified Jet. Maybe Rain, a cat did come up when we googled the names. But it's a stretch.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 30, 2015, 01:44:40 AM
I know I'm becoming numb when I start to not care about Mafia.
Anyway, I was not in a good mood when I posted that long thing, like Corn pointed out. Also, I posted suspects because like Soren said, I tend to get killed at Night for my experience and I want to help the Town as much as possible.
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 28, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
@Sky: You say Trust me on this, and Sage said the same thing, but you didn't want to believe it. Now I know you have better proof, but what makes him and you so different?
I meant trust me on that one statement. I got it from the Mafia forum. I like to give the Town advice as we play the game since I am pretty experienced compared to most here. It's up to you whether to take it.
Still leaning Rachel and Corn. Unnerved by the lurkers such as Peri and Rain. They could be Mafia for all we know, but since they haven't been posting as much (Rain hasn't posted once, as she hasn't been active, which isn't her fault but just making a point here), we can never tell. It unnerves me. I'm null on them, since few posts do sometimes mean Mafia but may not mean Mafia and they haven't been suspicious yet. I just get bothered when people don't post as much as I want ;D I'm null, leaning slightly Town, on Soren, Sand, and Gonff. Nothing too suspicious from them yet. Leaning Mafia on Sam, Eul, and Rock just slightly.
Yes, I see what you mean, and it makes total sense. However, you seem very eager to vote people out, and not in a simple Town way; Like you
want to get them out.
Now, I could be suspecting the wrong person here, or I could be right. If I were to be, than you could kill me off, then people would suspect you. If you didn't, more evidence way come up surrounding you. Of course, I could be wrong and Rachel probably will kill me, but think about it.
Ok, so Sa, and Rain both fit the bill if the more minimally active ones, so they could take the longest to send the message. Since there's two, the Rachel/Sam thing comes up again, Rach PMs Sam, Sam doesn't respond, night lag, here we are. I'm thinking either Rachel or Sam, with Rain as a "maybe", third choice.
Quote from: Skyblade on October 30, 2015, 02:19:36 AM
Well, transparency helps the Town so I will say: I messed up. Again. I tried to do something good. I thought it was the inevitable action for someone who didn't want to play and wasn't getting replaced, and Jet was probably going to do it anyway. I thought he might be Mafia.
There's something I forgot to mention earlier. I've noticed something. Søren suspected Rachel; she suspected him back. I suspected Rachel; she suspected me back. She's been suspecting the people who suspected her first. I does seem like she backed off me, but I can't be sure if she has and what her motives to her posts are.
@Jet: In the Mafia forum, we have a time limit for Night actions to keep the game moving. Can we set a time limit?
We better catch one of the Mafia tomorrow. We're gonna have to be careful with who we vote.
Actually I suspected Soren first and he suspected me back. If you go back and check you'll see.
Rachel I went back and looked and he was just commenting on my point that it might be the foreign players in the game. He never accused you directly until both you and Sam voted for him almost at the same time.
It made me vote for you, as well as a few others simply because it is really suspicious.
I don't know why that happened. I just voted and Sam happened to be on at the same time and voted the same. But shouldn't have that made you vote for Sam instead of me because he just copied what I did.
Have the Healer and Mafia been nudged?
Hello....?
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 30, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Have the Healer and Mafia been nudged?
That would be a good idea, and I hope Jet sets a time limit. Oh, and I still need to respond to several people.
I've noticed Jet hasn't been online as much lately. In fact, that's the case for many members. Eul, Rain, Corny (who said why)...
Where's Corny gone?
She's taking a break, but she said she'd be back for a few minutes each day to maintain Mafia and OO and such.
Rain's been super busy.
Quote from: rachel25 on November 01, 2015, 02:07:13 PM
Where's Corny gone?
Check Front Lawns much?
Hey, Corn?
I notice you. I see what you do for the forum.
Quote from: Skyblade on November 01, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Hey, Corn? Yes, Skye?
I notice you. It's nice that someone somewhere does. . . . I see what you do for the forum. Thanks, Bladey.
Finally replying.
@Corny: I never knew the intent behind your posts, Town or Mafia. I can see both sides: Town Corny doesn't know who to vote, so she thinks Sky's argument is valid and agrees with her. Or Mafia Corny sees an easy chance to vote for an Innocent and get off scotch-free. In Mafia, we need to consider all possibilities.
@Gonff: I'm always eager to vote out a suspect, and often am the first person to make a move. I can't say I suspect you more, though; you and Søren are my town reads. Suspecting others is good for the Town. Also I wouldn't speculate about Night actions. That just gives the Mafia ideas, and using Night actions for clues is highly discouraged by an experienced member from the Mafia forum.
@Rachel: Oh. As I recall, he said the opposite, that he suspected you first and you suspected him in return. I need to check things for myself before trusting others. I can see lying about earlier posts that people forgot about as a Mafia tactic. I really can. Wait, I really need to check up on this mess of who said what. Why are we so confused about the Rachel-Søren argument?
Quote from: Skyblade on November 01, 2015, 02:04:36 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on October 30, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Have the Healer and Mafia been nudged?
That would be a good idea, and I hope Jet sets a time limit. Oh, and I still need to respond to several people.
I've noticed Jet hasn't been online as much lately. In fact, that's the case for many members. Eul, Rain, Corny (who said why)...
Apologies, I was at a sleepover with some friends and did not have my computer.
I'm not trying to criticize! Just making an observation. They're good for the Town.
Hope you enjoyed yourself.
Also, what about the idea to time limit the power roles? What's the progress on that? :)
*double post*
Hello......?
Be patient. Night actions have been sent in, the story is coming.Quote from: Skyblade on November 01, 2015, 03:33:22 PM
Hope you enjoyed yourself.
Also, what about the idea to time limit the power roles? What's the progress on that? :)
'Twas very fun. I totally killed it as a singer on Guitar Hero, and I had fun raging at Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros (Seriously, King Dedede is such a pain. And Baby Peach in Mario Kart. And BOWSER. That jerk kept knocking me off the flaming track! Still fun though)
I shall implement it when it is necessary to do so.
Nice to hear you had a good time.
Bump?
Patience young grasshopper.
*Blinks* Haven't been called that in a while. *Sighs* Okay. I'll try to be patient, although it's really not my strong suit.
Quote from: Cornflower MM on November 04, 2015, 01:57:25 AM
*Blinks* Haven't been called that in a while.
It's a Kung-Fu thing. Or maybe just an Asian stereotype thing, I'm not sure which.
I have no idea. One of my sisters used to say that to me. Usually right before we got into a huge fight that I usually lost.
You need to learn kung-fu. :P
No I don't, by this time I'm confident I could kick her hard enough to get a big enough head start.
That's my girl! :P
*Smiles* Sorry, Jet, we'll stop spamming now.
Yeah.... :P
*bump*
No bump is required. Bumps are not required until topics are at the bottom of pages. But if you're really that impatient I won't bother with a story.
Sorry, I do want a story and I'm just excited and tired of waiting. Sorry. :(
Guys, I'm sorry, but I don't think I can finish this. I've been very busy lately and quite frankly I lack the motivation to continue with this.
If someone does want to be the GM and continue, then that's totally fine with me.
I am disappointed we may not be able to continue, but I understand, Jet. Take some time to focus on what matters more :)
Does anyone volunteer to take over, though?
I really really want to, but I don't think I can be counted on to write a story, so I guess not.
I'm a bit too inexperienced to be GM. Sorry to hear you can't continue, Jet.
I would vonlunteer, but I've already done it, so someone else might want to.
I don't think a player of the game can be the GM :P
To keep the game going for now, though: Jet, if you send me who was killed/saved, I can write the story. I can also keep track of votes during the Day phases. Neither of these actions requires giving me information I shouldn't know, so it should stil be fair.
I'm dead, and I honestly know nothing about the other players, so I can do it if no one else willl.
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on November 11, 2015, 02:47:52 AM
Guys, I'm sorry, but I don't think I can finish this. I've been very busy lately and quite frankly I lack the motivation to continue with this.
If someone does want to be the GM and continue, then that's totally fine with me.
Aww, okay. Your decision. (And I know what you mean, believe me.)
Quote from: Sagetip, the hare on November 11, 2015, 10:54:24 PM
I'm dead, and I honestly know nothing about the other players, so I can do it if no one else willl.
That sounds the most fair.
If there are no objections, I'll send Sage everyone's roles.
I don't mind.
Sounds good to me.
GOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEE!!!!!
Okay.
Okay? That's it? OKAY?!
Sounds good, if Sage wants to do it.
Sorry, did I scare you? (:P)
No.
Jet? You gonna send me the roles?
Good.
It is done.
I could be a replacement player for Rocktree!
Sorry Ash, but I don't think that'll work :( Everyone would know you're Town, and the point of the game is to find who's the Mafia.
Quote from: Skyblade on November 14, 2015, 10:40:55 PM
Sorry Ash, but I don't think that'll work :( Everyone would know you're Town, and the point of the game is to find who's the Mafia.
I just remembered that Rock's character died. Whoops.
...So, yeah, am I still in this game? Because now that I actually have a bit of time, I wouldn't mind hopping back in, if I'm still alive. (I'm up to date on the topic, and it doesn't appear that I've died, but I'm uncertain as to if I've been kicked out due to inactivity.)
I do actually have a theory that has to do with Kuki and Suna, but I'd rather confirm if I'm still in or if I'm out before I say anything.
You're still in. I no longer have any control over this though, so Sage can say differently. Anyway, I'm interested to see this theory.
I really don't like putting too much stock into clues, because they can be easily misinterpreted ::) However, I am interested to hear what you have to say.
You're still in, Rain.
Story is a WIP. Expect by Wednesday.
Yay! :D
Okay, so first:
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT MAFIA AND THUS THIS THEORY COULD BE TOTALLY OFF IN EVERY WAY.
Now that that's out of the way, I noticed that several people have been trying to theorize who the two mafia are by their actions (which is a totally valid way to do it, but I really suck at picking up hints, so I'm just ignoring that way), but the only investigating they've done of the names of the mafia, "Kuki" and "Suna", are Googling them and finding pictures. I decided to go a bit deeper than that. And by deeper, I mean I went onto Google Translate because I noticed how Japanese the names sounded and went, "Y'know, maybe Jet did something like what I do with names and translated a word that has to do with the mafia into a different language, then used that as their names." This is what I came up with:
Kuki: Japanese for "stem" or "stalk", as in a plant stem/stalk.
Suna: Japanese for "sand". Also, Romanian for "call". But I think "sand" makes a bit more sense.
What does this mean? Well, it could mean nothing (which would also mean that I overthink things too much), but it could also mean that Jet took parts of the names of the mafia and translated them into Japanese to make a sort of code name for them. The most obvious of the two is that Suna would be Sandpaw, as he literally has the word "sand" in his name. As for Kuki, that one's a bit tougher. I mean, "stem" isn't a word that obviously applies to anyone in particular (at least, not as obviously as Suna), but if I had to guess, I'd probably choose Cornflower, as her name is a plant (which, if you didn't know, usually has a stem). My other guess would be Rocktree, as "tree" is also a plant, but it makes much less sense to apply the word "stem" to "tree".
So, my theory is that the mysterious "Kuki" is Cornflower MM, and that "Suna" is LT Sandpaw.
Am I right? Probably not. Will I be utterly slaughtered by Corn and Sand for pointing fingers at them in this post? Probably. But who cares? Not me. Because I overthink too much and probably should be disregarded, as it feels like the names were far too obvious to be right. I mean, for all I know, Jet could've thought that far ahead and tried to throw us all off the track by using words that could be attributed to non-mafia players. Or, you know, there's the off chance that I'm right and I'm just really bashing Jet by calling his sneaky naming system "obvious" and "really easy to interpret". :P
That actually makes a lot of sense, which sucks because its going to get me killed. I'd say full well look into it, as I'm sure everyone will. I want to win this game just as much as everyone else, so I would strongly encourage using every resource available, including the thing that's going to get me killed. :P
My only defense is that it was coincidental on Jets' part, or put in to throw people off, though I doubt it.
Quote from: Rainshadow on November 16, 2015, 06:42:38 PM
Yay! :D
Okay, so first:
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT MAFIA AND THUS THIS THEORY COULD BE TOTALLY OFF IN EVERY WAY.
Now that that's out of the way, I noticed that several people have been trying to theorize who the two mafia are by their actions (which is a totally valid way to do it, but I really suck at picking up hints, so I'm just ignoring that way), but the only investigating they've done of the names of the mafia, "Kuki" and "Suna", are Googling them and finding pictures. I decided to go a bit deeper than that. And by deeper, I mean I went onto Google Translate because I noticed how Japanese the names sounded and went, "Y'know, maybe Jet did something like what I do with names and translated a word that has to do with the mafia into a different language, then used that as their names." This is what I came up with:
Kuki: Japanese for "stem" or "stalk", as in a plant stem/stalk.
Suna: Japanese for "sand". Also, Romanian for "call". But I think "sand" makes a bit more sense.
What does this mean? Well, it could mean nothing (which would also mean that I overthink things too much), but it could also mean that Jet took parts of the names of the mafia and translated them into Japanese to make a sort of code name for them. The most obvious of the two is that Suna would be Sandpaw, as he literally has the word "sand" in his name. As for Kuki, that one's a bit tougher. I mean, "stem" isn't a word that obviously applies to anyone in particular (at least, not as obviously as Suna), but if I had to guess, I'd probably choose Cornflower, as her name is a plant (which, if you didn't know, usually has a stem). My other guess would be Rocktree, as "tree" is also a plant, but it makes much less sense to apply the word "stem" to "tree".
So, my theory is that the mysterious "Kuki" is Cornflower MM, and that "Suna" is LT Sandpaw.
Am I right? Probably not. Will I be utterly slaughtered by Corn and Sand for pointing fingers at them in this post? Probably. But who cares? Not me. Because I overthink too much and probably should be disregarded, as it feels like the names were far too obvious to be right. I mean, for all I know, Jet could've thought that far ahead and tried to throw us all off the track by using words that could be attributed to non-mafia players. Or, you know, there's the off chance that I'm right and I'm just really bashing Jet by calling his sneaky naming system "obvious" and "really easy to interpret". :P
No, I won't slaughter you. Not right now. I'm still puzzling over your connection between 'stem' and 'Cornflower'
Well done for going to Google Translate. I never thought of that. :P And your theory is a good one Rain. One that should be taken into account.
*Pokes thread* Well, Sage isn't here to GM (I miss him; I hope he returns soon). I guess we can wait for his opinion and how to proceed.
This was the first thread I checked. Sorry for not being on, I didn't check the forum until today. :P
I'll try and get this back up, just hold out.
No, don't worry about it. And thank you Sage; feel free to take your time ;D
Ok. I started the story before the forums went down so it should be done by tomorrow. Thanks for your patience, everyone.
ROUND 2 (NIGHT) HAS BEGUN.
Nobody saw the next attack coming until it happened.
It was a long time before people got over the previous death. Mourning was a chief priority - when the guards weren't keeping an eye on them. So when they found the second body, no one felt safe.
The clock had just struck midnight when Gonff returned to his room. The bed was a large four-poster, just like everyone else's. The sheets were clean white linen and were always made when they returned to their rooms. The window was neatly covered by a pre-made set of board nailed together that fit seamlessly into the space, making it impossible for anybody to get out through the window from the inside, according to the master carpenter.
Everybody else was talking in the common area. Gonff had put in his thoughts and, tired after a long, dreary day of being cooped up inside the castle. Sky had finished a thought about Soren and Rachel; both of them were eyeing each other (and Sky). Sand sat on an armchair covered in red velvet, leaning forward, mouth open as if to say something. He had mentioned at the time of Gonff's departure that is was "suspicious" that he had left after giving his input, saying that he thought that Gonff wanted to avoid any backlash. Peri said that that was a very heavy statement to speak based on the actions of a single individual. By 12:30 they were all tired of the argument and agreed to talk about it tomorrow.
An hour later, the lights had all been put out except for one in the hallway with the rooms and the common area. Two figures slipped out of their rooms quietly. It was a very d?j? vu moment, and the figures almost smiled at each other. They went past the light, briefly casting two distinct shadows. One tall and one bulky. The tall one diverged from the other, heading for the common area. The room was a large pentagon, like the main keep of the castle. A carpet shaped to the walls was in the middle, and the red velvet chair earlier occupied by Sandpaw glowed in the soft lamplight. The shadow of the figure passed over it silently. The figure dashed to each corner, checked every one for any hidden listeners, the soft pads of its feet the only sound heard.
Satisfied of the emptiness, it headed back to where the seocnd figure stood at the door of a room. Gonff's room. The castle janitor kept all room locks and hinges well oiled - only insuring the demise of the castle's inhabitants. Gonff himself lay sleeping on the bed, unaware of the killers about to take his life. The door closed behind the second figure, and the click of the hatch coincided perfectly with the sound of metal being drawn. Gonff woulddream his last dream tonight.
ROUND 1 (NIGHT) HAS ENDED, WITH THE DETECTIVE GONFF DEAD.
@Sage: Thank you :) I'll keep track of the votes, so people can change them as many times as they want.
And are you kidding me? Well. This is upsetting. But TOWN! On the bright side, we still have a big numerical advantage. We need to be cautious and do our best to find the Mafia for Day 2. I believe in the Town, as long as we actually post ;D (But seriously, people not posting is one of my biggest Mafia pet peeves. So please participate).
I honestly am not confident in my Mafia skills (or anything else, really), but I have to try.
I'm working on a readlist, which is my thoughts on all the players. This might take a bit; it's a lot of work.
Oh, there are three real clues in the story, and no fake ones. May the odds be ever in your favor
You say no fake ones, but I tell you, stories lead people astray all the time :P Which is why I'm wary of them :P
Thanks for the info, anyway :)
Aw shucks, out again. Oh well, please be careful and look through past posts town! *Floats away*
At least you got to play :) I signed up for Mafia 2.5 and got killed before doing anything! (;D)
GOnff got to beat someone up in 2.5...
2.5 was a pretty awesome game I must say.
2 was the best because I'm sly.
Am I still in this? I don't remember if I've been killed or what yet.
You know, Mafia 2 is what taught me to be more careful and less trusting. So thanks, Soren, for my paranoia ;D
Mafia 3 is by far my favorite.
And yes, you're still in.
I have no idea. Hmm.
I think the two mafia are Sunpaw the hair and Sky the badger because their shadows were described as one tall and one bulky. The hair are known to be tall in Redwall, have padded feet, and are quick on there feet quote "The figure dashed to each corner" and "the soft pads of it's feet the only sound heard." Now the evidence against Sky is that out of the animals still alive, the one that is most likely considered "bulky" would be the badger.